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welcome to show on Martin willischer

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host and I'm wearing my special swamp

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gas shirt tonight so I want to thank you

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all for tuning in this is a real this is

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a special show because of sort of it's

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kind of a fluid topic right now and

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these shoot downs and what better guests

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could I possibly have on than a former

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fighter pilot along with an astronomer

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Chris Leto and Mark d'antonio they're

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coming right up in just a second Happy

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Valentine's Day everyone and uh yeah so

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this is a this is a balloon gate and I

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thought what a perfect thing to say this

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is a balloon gate what the heck is going

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on we're going to be talking all about

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that and I I love this graphic right

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I think it's funny I hope you're getting

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a good laugh out of it I'll probably put

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it in the show notes as well

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so uh I want to thank everyone that

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supports the show anyone can do that

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over at podcast ufo.com and this is uh

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the uh blog that was done this week is

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is a second in the series I think

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there's going to be more and this is

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called UFO abductology under attack the

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first Sharks fired uh talks all about

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um the different people that have got

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involved in the the UFO Abduction topic

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and again it's the second one in the

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series check that out over at podcast

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ufo.com without further Ado I'm bringing

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in the handsome and well-dressed Chris

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lato welcome to the show

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hello Martin thanks for being here all

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right yeah thanks for inviting me yeah

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you bet you're you're used to being the

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host that's why you said that so I know

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and mark the Antonio Mark thanks so much

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for being here hey thanks Martin good to

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see you Chris nice to meet you yeah nice

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to meet you mark are you doing that

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Brady you Brady Bunch type of thing you

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you got that down he knows how to the

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reason it's hard to do yeah it's because

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it's our first opposite everything shows

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opposite like yeah once you get that in

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your head okay I'm actually pointing to

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to the yeah to the middle he's there

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he's there yeah yeah

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that's right so I think we are uh you

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know I mean I I just uh Chris wasn't

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aware but you know last week I talked

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about it I was lucky enough to be

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actually under the balloon and for just

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out out of my car for five minutes when

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that got shot down and I witnessed the

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whole thing which was really exciting

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and but uh but more is happening and you

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know there's uh I I think the uh you

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know a lot of the UFO world out there on

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Twitter especially you see there's all

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kinds of theories and things going all

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over the place so I I would like to have

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a nice balanced look at what we think is

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I said all along and I've got some

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criticisms of it but I don't think it's

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alien but I'm going to keep an open mind

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I mean the reason I want to say that is

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because uh about what is it 97 or 90

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some odd percent of everything that

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starts out as a UFO is explained and so

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I'm thinking it's possible that's the

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same going to be the same type of thing

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with these things that are shot down but

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I have no idea and uh we are here to

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talk about it I don't know who wants to

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take it first

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well I mean I I just because you brought

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up how uh 99 of these things are known

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uh the thing to understand in the case

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of these objects are right

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is Let's Take It on the path of what

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they could be okay

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they could be more spy balloons okay but

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we know for a fact that there was at

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least one and it was here and it was

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shot down off Myrtle Beach you captured

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it uh which was a great capture by the

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way and thank you for sending that to me

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because I really enjoyed seeing that

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um and there it is yeah and uh the

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second thing they could be if they're

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not another spy balloon is they could be

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an actual weather balloon now a couple

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things make me think that's possible

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first of all when you look at these

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normal weather balloons when they're

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launched they when they launched the the

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latex ones of the ones that typically

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are lost or probably around uh five to

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six feet in diameter at the ground but

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by the time they get into the air and

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they could be the size of a car

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that's exactly the size they said this

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other one was it was the size of a car

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well that made me think was that a maybe

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a mistaken weather balloon

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you know because and and and Crystal

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probably even say you know when you're

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approaching something at a at the

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hundreds of miles an hour you're

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effectively approaching something that's

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not moving if it's a balloon and so if

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you're approaching it you have split

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actually looking at so I imagine that

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that makes the identification very very

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difficult you don't have time to say oh

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it looks like it has a payload they

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think I saw an iPhone you know you don't

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have time for that I don't think yeah

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you know what do you think Chris

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yeah I I tend to agree with Mark

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especially after this last

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uh the Lake Huron sighting he basically

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says you know the guy says it's it's

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difficult to see it's about the size of

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a four-wheeler and if you let me share

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my my screen here Martin Knight balloon

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that we launched yep just since Mark

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the weather balloon so this is the

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weather balloon that we basically

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launched uh last June this was we

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um from Vernal Utah to launch the UAP

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society and one from Germany to launch

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the sky 360. and that's uh what your I

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think what what Mark's talking about is

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this is at the ground level

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um and so that's about how big it is and

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this will expand to actually 36 feet

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feet and then it will uh break and the

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the wire the lines actually you know

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there was I believe four lines coming

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down to our payload

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and so you had the payload below it

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so is there there is a payload on that

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of something yeah you'll see it right

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here so first there's a parachute so

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this is the parachute right yeah this

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goes up to 110 000 feet blows up it gets

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to the size you know 40 feet across is

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pretty big This is Your Parachute and

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then we have a payload here I think it

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could be up to uh uh three kilograms I

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the most expensive part was the helium

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so the helium it was kind of we were

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payload over here I can go grab it uh in

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a second

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yeah if you close it I'll go grab it

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I've seen you know they have these uh

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kits online that you can buy to send uh

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that was the you know besides a spy

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balloon and an actual weather balloon

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you have these which are uh civilian

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launched uh uh balloons to space and you

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can buy the kit and I think that's

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probably what you did right yeah so we

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we because they have it you can build it

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all yourself right but this uh this came

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in a special kit just makes it so easy

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and we planned this whole thing in in

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about a month really Alexei novitsky did

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did all the work basically

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um so this is your the payload you know

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it basically comes in uh

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you have all your cameras in here so

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everything kind of set up

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so we had an iPhone going down we wanted

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to live stream it and then we had uh uh

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um there was a megahertz gigahertz

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detector in there as well

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um so yeah this is this is a payload

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which is normally going to hang down by

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these lines right and so you'll see

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at least this is uh what we had as our

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weather balloon that we sent up

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well let me ask you this uh this is uh

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directed at either one of you as

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um it it seems to me that they were

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talking about that these

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though at least a couple of objects they

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saw well one was a cylinder shape and

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one was octagonal and so but they're not

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talking about balloons and I'm not

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saying it was like a structured object

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but it makes me wonder you know

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um they said no no source of uh

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uh they didn't understand why it was

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floating or something I thought I heard

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something like that am I uh or read

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something like that am I getting that

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part wrong no I I heard you I heard that

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I read that part of the story and uh or

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a story and it said uh yeah they

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couldn't understand why it was floating

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and the next thought in my head was

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helium

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okay because I thought it might have

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been a balloon okay because you know

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Occam's razor right I mean

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sometimes the simplest explanation is

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the correct one and we want to exhaust

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all of those expectations expected

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results before we wander down the true

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unknown path right so you put these

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things through a real rigorous analysis

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and then what comes out of that funnel

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of analysis at the bottom if it falls

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into your hand that's a true unknown see

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there it is right there you can and you

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can't do anything with it okay maybe you

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may not understand it okay because our

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science may not be able to penetrate if

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it's a true unknown at this point but at

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least we'll know it's a true unknown and

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I know I know for a fact that our armed

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services see these things I mean you

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remember my story okay and then it's not

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just my story it's the story of many

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other people who were in the submarine

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Force I wasn't I was a privileged guest

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and we actually saw they saw a very fast

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moving object underwater that was moving

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several hundred knots okay

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was that a machine anomaly well you

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might say that maybe but it did leave a

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trace on the on the sonar they were able

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to deduce its bearing in range they were

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able to give it a a speed and then when

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I did a job for the Joint Chiefs four

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years later I asked one of the Chiefs

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what can you tell me about this fast

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mover program

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and I kind of was hesitant you know the

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story and then he said I can't talk

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about that program I'm sorry Mark huh I

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was in DC when I was asking this

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question I was driving home like this

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holy cow it's real holy cow it's real he

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didn't say it didn't exist that's right

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and see but see that's the thing right

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and you know guys like Chris you know

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they they fly fighter jets and I think

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that his job is to keep himself safe and

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bring the hardware back and to do the

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mission carry on the mission right and

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so he's going to do that to the best of

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his ability obviously he did a good job

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there he is okay that's right and so I

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think that that being the case

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um you know we can defer to what they

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see in the cockpit over something that I

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think

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all right so when we talk about the

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Nimitz incident right they say well you

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know favor talks about these particular

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Tic-Tac shapes in the way that what they

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were doing okay I analyzed all the

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videos that were released so far they

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were released

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none of those videos uh are definitive

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you can't look at any one of those and

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say aha Smoking Gun

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right they all have problems and they

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all could be other objects all of them

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so far I analyzed the three that's it

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but there's some others from uh you know

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a ranch that had some interesting uh you

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know characteristics and stuff like that

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and it's very tempting to say they're

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just balloons I get it all right but the

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fact is you have to be open-minded I am

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and as you know open-minded enough to

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know that maybe they're not all balloons

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this octagonal shape one

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the octagonal shape was that something

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that the the pilot said as he was

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zooming by at several hundred miles an

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hour

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um or you know and the cylindrical shape

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again same thing

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so how what's the quality of that

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observation right we'd like to know and

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was it film Chris do you think it would

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be filmed something like that

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yeah well I just did a live stream of

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the Lake Huron audio

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oh yes I can play a minute of it and he

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describes it actually this most recent

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one

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um yeah go ahead can you play that yeah

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let me bring it up quickly and uh I

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think I wrote down when he

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when he describes it

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don't they have to have I mean it's the

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videos being captured if they're gonna

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yeah on all of all of our missions we

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turn on the tapes

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yep so they they should it's all

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recorded and they say in here that they

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lock it up with the Turning pod and uh

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the the missile has a good track on it

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so the missile's tracking it he just

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can't tell what it is with his eyes

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because they have to fly by it so fast

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Chris I just saw you shut off the audio

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on the on the film itself oh sorry did

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it shut off I thought I turned it okay

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so close

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did you hear that he says it's so small

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and and

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um going so slow you can't see it until

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I'd be more worried about hitting it

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uh

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[Music]

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so I don't I I couldn't tell if he says

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octagon shape there that maybe where he

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said it just before he said he said

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octagonal okay uh before that and he

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says he was looking for Strings he

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couldn't really tell if there were

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strings and by four wheeler does he mean

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an ATV

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yeah okay so not like a four one or a

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four wheel drive car but an ATV yeah

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that's what I understood it as a

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four-wheeler okay that's what I

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understood and then I think it's just

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but yeah do you know

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so it basically says um I'm able to pick

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it up about a mile away and then you

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know 15 seconds later he's passing it so

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basically you'd have to and it's very

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difficult to see so it sounds like it's

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really small so they can get they can

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see it with the targeting pod and it

366
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sounds like it's shaped like a container

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is what he says shaped like a container

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with strings hanging down but looks like

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nothing is attached to those strings

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this one this one particularly because

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it's going with the wind you know the

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trekking with the wind it's small it

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sounds like it's a balloon you know the

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other ones are more interesting the one

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the one over uh dead horse oh yeah yep I

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can uh

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well that one that has the strings

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hanging down it's almost like it lost

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the payload yeah exactly like it lost a

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payload that's that's what I was saying

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is you know if these could it be these

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strings

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exactly hang on a second oh yeah okay I

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don't know

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um and they're mad at how many hundreds

386
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of dollars of healing they lost

387
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yeah this was the cylinder one that's

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shaped like a cylinder F22 shot down

389
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over the ice so somewhere on the sea ice

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they're out there

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um looking that around

392
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and then

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the final one basically they launched

394
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out of Elmendorf so this was shot down

395
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f-35s initially went and investigated it

396
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in the first F-35 or one of the F-35 set

397
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is sensors it was kind of messing with

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the sensors and they said this was

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shaped like a cylinder so that one's

400
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pretty cool with me and that was at

401
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forty thousand feet but

402
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um and then the next uh I guess the next

403
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day so later on Saturday

404
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um they launched out of Elmendorf here

405
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and this is where they flew into Canada

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into the Yukon

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and so somewhere over here in the middle

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of Yukon is where they shot down

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um and I've heard no information on this

410
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one I don't know anything on this one

411
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altitudes or what it looked like or

412
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anything but I know that the special

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forces are going there the Canadian

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Special Forces

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well there's debris for sure so

416
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and this was a that was a joint one

417
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right it wasn't that uh Canada asked the

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U.S to shoot it down or something like

419
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that Norad

420
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um was involved

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um I believe and yeah they they that's

422
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right uh they did ask the US to shoot it

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down and Chris uh before the show

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started I believe before the show

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started I don't think it was during the

426
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show you said that the uh The Sidewinder

427
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was probably unarmed when it hit the

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balloon and just used Like a Torpedo

429
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type of situation not a torpedo but a

430
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harpoon Harpoon type of situation and

431
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what do you think of the other two or

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three the other three shoot sounds were

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do you think they were actually using

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Weaponry that uh

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the uh you know where they've blown out

436
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of the sky basically do you have any I

437
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does anyone have any idea I mean how

438
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much of this I don't I don't know I was

439
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it makes sense that they took out the

440
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Warhead on the first one you know the

441
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the shoot down over uh Myrtle Beach yeah

442
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they wanted that technology and they but

443
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the thing is they had a lot of time you

444
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know they really had three four days to

445
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figure out what they're gonna do and

446
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they decided look

447
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you know this thing's up you know 70 000

448
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feet it's not going to get any real data

449
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,900
on us and we'll just shoot it down when

450
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it's over the water

451
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um you know so there was no real I guess

452
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hurry in that case they had they had

453
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time to take out Warheads out of the

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missile you know I think normally but

455
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these guys the F-22 is I think the

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reason they're shooting is they're

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probably the ones with all the life

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weapons you know having live weapons is

459
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is not a normal thing those are very you

460
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know explosive dangerous weapons

461
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normally we have training weapons so I

462
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think the f-22s they're probably just on

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alert to defend the you know that

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Western uh Alaska airspace the aid is

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and so they probably just happen to have

466
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the the live weapons you know most

467
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likely the f-18s that showed up just

468
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didn't have

469
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you know live missiles on them so I

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would if I had to guess I'd say they're

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probably live because these other three

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shoot Downs I don't I doubt they would

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have well I don't know they could

474
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probably make it happen I don't know how

475
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hard that is but I don't know if they

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have the time to really uh take out the

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WarHeads well when was an F-16 right

478
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yeah there was a Duluth F-16

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um these were f-22s and f-35s I think I

480
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flew at eielson Air Force Base actually

481
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uh for four years it was awesome it's a

482
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you know two mile long runway for the uh

483
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shuttle

484
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but there's nothing here you know Ice

485
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Road Truckers have you ever watched that

486
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show yeah oh yeah that's this road

487
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that's this road ice road goes up

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through uh this range

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and then uh up to prudo Bay so that's

490
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really where they they shut it down

491
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essentially was up by on that right off

492
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the Ice Road Truckers uh Road

493
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I've had some crazy uh crazy trips up

494
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there

495
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yes I should say to the person listening

496
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to the audio of this if you want all

497
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,660
these visuals you're probably going to

498
00:21:07,549 --> 00:21:05,520
have to go over to the show notes and

499
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actually if you watch the video of this

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part at least part of the show you'll

501
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understand more what we're talking about

502
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a lot of this is graphic but um so so

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this the thing

504
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as far as we know Chris

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um is this the first thing this is the

506
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first thing the balloon last Saturday on

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the fourth was the first thing that was

508
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shot out of the sky over U.S right

509
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yes

510
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so in many years

511
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and and like 65 years or something

512
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I I just learned that today to be honest

513
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I didn't know that it's a very

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interesting

515
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yeah I mean I don't know what else uh

516
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:46,500
what else there was shot out of the sky

517
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really over you the US itself well

518
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remember okay

519
00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:53,700
um it's controversial but there was the

520
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Battle of Los Angeles remember yeah that

521
00:22:08,230 --> 00:21:58,500
was uh that was before Roswell though

522
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:11,149
yeah yeah the the world's foremost

523
00:22:15,529 --> 00:22:13,020
expert on that of course is David Marler

524
00:22:18,289 --> 00:22:15,539
that's right in Albuquerque so yep uh

525
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:18,299
David's uh David would be uh all up on

526
00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:19,320
that so he could tell you everything

527
00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:23,640
yeah that was 1942. okay yeah well I

528
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:25,260
mean we do shoot missiles all the time

529
00:22:29,149 --> 00:22:27,240
to be honest

530
00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:29,159
um usually over the water they have

531
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tests

532
00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:32,159
you know test there's probably test

533
00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:34,860
sites over there but whiskey 122 may be

534
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where they actually employ weapons

535
00:22:41,149 --> 00:22:38,940
you know maybe they're like hey it'll go

536
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:41,159
right into this area why don't we just

537
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meet it there

538
00:22:48,049 --> 00:22:45,059
so I I mean we shoot a lot of weapons

539
00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:48,059
um just for training for practice you

540
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:49,980
actually have to use the missiles I just

541
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,140
found this out if you talk to my buddies

542
00:22:57,529 --> 00:22:55,440
Acosta analyst and actually you have to

543
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,539
pay we pay millions of dollars to

544
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destroy old missiles you know 20 after

545
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:02,580
20 years whatever the contract is yeah

546
00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:05,460
so I believe that one of the things I'd

547
00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:07,860
like to do while we're all doing this

548
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:10,500
show is I would really like to answer a

549
00:23:14,210 --> 00:23:13,140
lot of people have questions and I'm

550
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,220
going to say the people that are

551
00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:15,600
watching now there's quite a few people

552
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:18,360
on board and if you uh have a question

553
00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:20,700
please go into chat and please use all

554
00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:23,460
caps so I can see your questions but I

555
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,900
think there are

556
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,120
so many people out there we want to know

557
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,280
what the heck's going on and I'm just

558
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,020
like I said this is a very fluid thing

559
00:23:34,669 --> 00:23:33,120
this show maybe tonight we may be

560
00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:34,679
talking about this tomorrow we may know

561
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:36,659
everything you know that's very possible

562
00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:40,320
that could happen so but it's uh

563
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:43,500
as far as what we really know is not a

564
00:23:48,529 --> 00:23:46,919
whole lot and I'm wondering uh I guess

565
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,539
I'll ask you Chris because you've been

566
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:51,120
involved in this type of thing

567
00:23:54,049 --> 00:23:51,840
um

568
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:54,059
do you think that we'll know or do you

569
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,740
think this is a matter of uh National

570
00:24:01,850 --> 00:23:58,080
Security and and it'll be uh I don't

571
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:05,270
uh so in my my uh video I released just

572
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:09,480
uh last hour I basically say that um I

573
00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:10,980
don't think any government or military

574
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:13,320
will give up actual

575
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:16,740
100 knowledge proof of alien technology

576
00:24:20,450 --> 00:24:19,020
I just don't think they're gonna do it I

577
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:20,460
think there's there's too much to gain

578
00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:25,460
in in you know way too much to lose

579
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:27,960
so I just don't think no matter what

580
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,580
they're not going to do it if they can I

581
00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:31,200
think we'd have to find out the

582
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,000
information you're gonna have to pull it

583
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:35,520
out of their hands you know if it's

584
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:37,620
there they have it hasn't come out in 80

585
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,900
years so I see no reason why it would

586
00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:41,520
possibly change now you know I'm just

587
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,520
you know you can't look back history is

588
00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:46,320
no indicator of future success and I'm

589
00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:49,020
like well we have nothing else to go on

590
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,520
um so I would say no

591
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,520
um I'm very optimistic we have tons of

592
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:54,960
information already just from the radio

593
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,940
calls I mean already the you know it

594
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,320
happened on Sunday

595
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,240
and look at the quality of video that I

596
00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:02,159
might be able to make only because I'm

597
00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:03,900
also you I'm leveraging all the other

598
00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:05,880
YouTubers out there who are making

599
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:08,039
excellent content so I just watch their

600
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:10,200
videos I get more data you know so it's

601
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,700
kind of like this neural network that we

602
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,679
have now I think that's where it's going

603
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:15,600
to come from from us you're saying the

604
00:25:21,169 --> 00:25:19,020
key word Chris okay and I hate to say

605
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,179
this but YouTube okay the bottom line

606
00:25:27,409 --> 00:25:24,240
here is that back when Roswell happened

607
00:25:30,769 --> 00:25:27,419
we did not have the media that we have

608
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:30,779
now we had a newspaper yeah right and a

609
00:25:39,289 --> 00:25:37,490
yeah I got one in the closet just like a

610
00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:39,299
relic okay it's actually from an old

611
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:42,120
Battleship uh it goes with the decor so

612
00:25:48,289 --> 00:25:44,820
when it what to me it means is that when

613
00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:48,299
we look at uh the current climate and

614
00:25:55,970 --> 00:25:51,179
the way information travels now we get

615
00:25:57,649 --> 00:25:55,980
an incredible panoply of information and

616
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:57,659
because of this environment and the

617
00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:00,720
mechanisms to disseminate it we also get

618
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,380
a tremendous amount of false uh data and

619
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,200
hoaxes like someone's I saw one today

620
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,840
first shot first shot of the dead horse

621
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,039
UFO

622
00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:13,919
and it was like a daytime shot of the

623
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,539
UFO lying in the ice

624
00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:17,039
and I wrote what's wrong with this

625
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,940
picture

626
00:26:21,409 --> 00:26:20,159
it's February in dead horse above the

627
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:21,419
Arctic Circle

628
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:23,000
it ain't light out

629
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:26,400
okay it's actually it's it's permanent

630
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,039
it's it's semi semi-dusk why somebody

631
00:26:33,649 --> 00:26:30,720
dust the whole day and then you get a

632
00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:33,659
dark night okay so you know that's

633
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:35,940
hoaxer's not thinking so I said science

634
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,380
wins again you know that kind of thing

635
00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:39,600
but either way but the thing is with the

636
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,640
with the rapid with the rapidity of the

637
00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:43,520
media the way it disseminates you know

638
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:46,440
uh we will see things that we probably

639
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:48,600
shouldn't you know I've mentioned before

640
00:26:52,850 --> 00:26:50,220
I was working on a project for the Navy

641
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,860
that I uh we're creating this this

642
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,200
object at the time it was classified and

643
00:27:00,490 --> 00:26:56,880
it was a flying object and they were

644
00:27:03,049 --> 00:27:00,500
testing it in a lake in in Idaho

645
00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:03,059
uh and because there was a base in that

646
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:04,919
Lake actually that nobody knew about

647
00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:07,980
well they were testing it there and

648
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,960
someone saw it flying and they they came

649
00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:11,279
down from the resort at the other end of

650
00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:12,419
the lake and started taking pictures of

651
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:16,140
it I got the pictures I'm like oh

652
00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:17,820
I know what this is

653
00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:20,100
it's actually something it's no longer

654
00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:21,779
classified in fact they say it's no

655
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:24,059
longer in in Play It's called project

656
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:27,059
Cormorant like the bird the Cormorant

657
00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:29,039
um well project Cormorant was something

658
00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:30,419
I was working on for the Navy I was

659
00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:32,039
building engineering models of this we

660
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:34,860
call it the birdie well I called the

661
00:27:38,450 --> 00:27:37,080
program office down in DC and I said uh

662
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:38,460
guys someone's taking pictures of the

663
00:27:42,649 --> 00:27:39,539
birdie

664
00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:42,659
uh you know and just to be fair they're

665
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,820
gonna one one photographer is going to

666
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,559
be get 10 more and five more after that

667
00:27:50,510 --> 00:27:48,720
and 16 more eventually they're gonna

668
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:50,520
take pictures that you don't want them

669
00:27:54,529 --> 00:27:51,779
to see

670
00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:54,539
just letting you know and at first I

671
00:27:57,710 --> 00:27:56,279
told them they would be confusing with a

672
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,720
UFO thing which is why I got it they

673
00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:59,039
said ah good let them let them think

674
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,539
it's a UFO

675
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:02,940
right leverage it let it let them think

676
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,980
it's a UFO and that's when I said well

677
00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:07,440
if they think it's UFO guess what you're

678
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:08,820
going to get many more people here

679
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,159
tomorrow and that's probably not what

680
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:13,980
you want and I had a deafening silence

681
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,240
that followed on the other end of the

682
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:17,279
phone and the next day I got a statement

683
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,380
which I disseminated to everybody and

684
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:22,080
they all went home oh it's one of ours

685
00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:25,080
you know and then they went home yeah

686
00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:28,260
hey I I asked for questions boy did they

687
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:30,360
come in so uh hopefully we can go

688
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:32,220
through them uh at least some of them

689
00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,900
you know sort of quickly here's the

690
00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:35,820
first one here Dr Richard could the

691
00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:38,940
cylinder have been a balloon

692
00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:41,820
any anybody if you look at the blimp uh

693
00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:44,520
the acorn sphere blimp remember that

694
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:46,620
it's the F-18 pilot from the back seat

695
00:28:50,769 --> 00:28:48,960
took all those photos I wish we could

696
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:50,779
have known whether it was vertical or

697
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:53,159
horizontal I mean you would think a

698
00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,320
cylinder would be horizontal if it was

699
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,419
some type of you know helium fill well

700
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,000
it can also it could also have been just

701
00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:03,120
it could have been an oblong uh pill

702
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,640
shape too and look like a cylinder

703
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:07,679
especially at high speed if you're

704
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,380
passing it right potentially so it's

705
00:29:15,409 --> 00:29:13,679
possible that uh it might have been a

706
00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:15,419
pill-shaped thing kind of like the Tic

707
00:29:18,649 --> 00:29:16,500
Tac and we don't know whether it was

708
00:29:20,269 --> 00:29:18,659
vertical or horizontal but could it have

709
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:20,279
been a balloon I would say yes it could

710
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,840
have been a balloon

711
00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:23,279
um of some kind I mean I've seen

712
00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:25,500
balloons that are round on the top round

713
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,500
on the bottom and and and and are made

714
00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:30,720
from a section A Gore that is actually a

715
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:31,799
cylinder

716
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:34,200
I've seen that I put something up there

717
00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:36,600
yeah sorry about that uh yeah there was

718
00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:39,240
one uh if you remember the acorn blimp

719
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:42,179
yeah was that the one shot on the right

720
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:43,500
side of the cockpit window yeah right

721
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:45,059
here yeah there you go I have you

722
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,799
remember that they took it just left the

723
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,440
East Coast as well

724
00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:52,080
it was uh look like I got I got that

725
00:29:55,789 --> 00:29:53,700
case actually and that when I analyzed

726
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:55,799
it I found that to be uh in all

727
00:30:02,210 --> 00:29:58,799
likelihood a mylar balloon at altitude

728
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:02,220
okay so you think it is Milo I do

729
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:04,500
um you know that was my my my finding

730
00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,380
and I said I was I was 90 that it was a

731
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:09,000
mylar balloon at altitude I mean it had

732
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,620
all the all Hallmarks it had the

733
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:12,720
wrinkles it had the little uh it even

734
00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:14,279
had the little pucker at the bottom for

735
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:16,440
the filler valve and kind of a thing and

736
00:30:19,789 --> 00:30:17,480
uh

737
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,799
they can go pretty high in altitude

738
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,039
mylar yet he can and they they'll

739
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:24,720
they'll get I mean if you're ever taking

740
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:26,940
a potato chip bag from 1 000 feet and

741
00:30:30,769 --> 00:30:28,980
gone up to Wells like say from Phoenix

742
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:30,779
and go on the Flagstaff with it that

743
00:30:34,610 --> 00:30:33,120
potato chip bag is really really tight

744
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:34,620
if you open it it's gonna go boom

745
00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:37,500
because it's that air inside is at the

746
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:39,720
the ambient pressure that it was from

747
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:40,500
Phoenix

748
00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:41,940
right

749
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:44,580
um so as it goes up in altitude okay the

750
00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:45,960
pressure gets lower and that pressure is

751
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,399
still pushing out and it pushes the bag

752
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:49,679
out further so the the mylar balloons

753
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:51,539
stretching and grow in the same way they

754
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:54,120
don't grow physically because they're

755
00:30:57,769 --> 00:30:55,980
not allowed to they're not like latex

756
00:31:00,169 --> 00:30:57,779
which stretches mylar doesn't stretch

757
00:31:02,450 --> 00:31:00,179
that's correct but the wrinkles get

758
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:02,460
really tight can it just wouldn't it

759
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,140
just blow up at a certain altitude or

760
00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:06,960
not it could possibly you know have a

761
00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:08,700
little uh you know fissure in it and

762
00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:09,659
break yes

763
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:11,340
and they do I mean sometimes they'll

764
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:14,100
probably just go you know and just fall

765
00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:16,080
you know so uh another question here

766
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,700
could they have been a lighter than

767
00:31:21,769 --> 00:31:19,919
aircraft

768
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:21,779
um and what would that be like that

769
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:23,340
would also be like a blimp or something

770
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:24,779
like that right

771
00:31:28,269 --> 00:31:26,820
like a kite I've seen some weird you

772
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:28,279
remember there's like this Pittsburgh

773
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:32,640
NFL game and there's a strange

774
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:35,820
kind optic flying over I mean yeah I

775
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,140
think they did that on purpose didn't

776
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:39,360
they to uh

777
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,880
uh to be controversial was that the one

778
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:42,960
at the game

779
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:45,600
no I just remember uh like some sort of

780
00:31:51,289 --> 00:31:49,679
uh Square Sky kite I maybe not a

781
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:51,299
dirigible but something like that could

782
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:53,159
have

783
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,440
yeah I

784
00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:58,080
I again but the answer you know the

785
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,880
question is Right could it have been yes

786
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:01,440
it could have I mean we can't say it's

787
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:02,640
not

788
00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:06,000
um you know I for sure uh but yeah I

789
00:32:09,649 --> 00:32:07,799
mean I'm pretty I'm pretty confident it

790
00:32:12,769 --> 00:32:09,659
could have been a balloon too

791
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:12,779
so this one is an interesting question

792
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:14,100
what do you think of them shooting

793
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:17,940
missiles at unknowns as a protocol I

794
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,260
think that could definitely get carried

795
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,360
away myself what does everyone else

796
00:32:27,169 --> 00:32:23,039
think about that I don't know what he

797
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,179
thinks yeah I was just texting with my

798
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:29,100
my fighter pilot buddy this morning and

799
00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:31,020
we both think it's very weird

800
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:33,419
you know we could in a check ride you

801
00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:35,520
would if you shot something unidentified

802
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:37,380
I mean if you're approved to shoot it

803
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:39,059
that makes sense

804
00:32:43,310 --> 00:32:40,860
but just shooting something that's

805
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,320
unidentified just seems very strange to

806
00:32:48,169 --> 00:32:46,080
me I mean listening to the engagement I

807
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,179
understand it you know I think they

808
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:49,440
think it's a balloon they're told to

809
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:50,580
shoot this thing down they're just gonna

810
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,260
they're gonna take it down

811
00:32:56,090 --> 00:32:54,000
and they want to make sure it's unmanned

812
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:56,100
first of all right in a situation like

813
00:32:58,669 --> 00:32:56,880
that

814
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:58,679
yeah I think they know it's unmanned in

815
00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:00,659
at the Lake Huron case because it's so

816
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:03,480
small right you can't fit a person into

817
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:06,960
that space and lift them with that much

818
00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:09,240
helium it could be a little tiny alien

819
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:11,880
you know you don't know right but it's

820
00:33:18,409 --> 00:33:14,580
not a man that we know about so yeah it

821
00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:18,419
doesn't count yeah poor aliens okay yeah

822
00:33:23,289 --> 00:33:20,700
but that's but that's a good point right

823
00:33:25,789 --> 00:33:23,299
I mean you you think about this and and

824
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:25,799
you know helium has a certain lifting

825
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,820
capacity

826
00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:28,320
do you have any idea how much it takes

827
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:30,059
to lift a person

828
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:31,740
remember the guy that flew around in his

829
00:33:36,049 --> 00:33:34,740
lawn chair yeah how many balloons did he

830
00:33:38,529 --> 00:33:36,059
have over his head

831
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,539
uh probably 80

832
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:41,039
83 two and a half three foot balloons is

833
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,840
that the guy on his couch one guy went

834
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:44,820
on his car no no this this was a guy in

835
00:33:49,310 --> 00:33:47,640
a chair actually uh he ended up dying

836
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:49,320
actually from the incident yeah they

837
00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:50,940
don't all die though some of them no

838
00:33:55,810 --> 00:33:53,340
some actually survived to be Darwin

839
00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:55,820
Award winners later

840
00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:58,919
okay here's uh another one why did the

841
00:34:03,130 --> 00:34:01,799
why this one's to you Chris why oh why

842
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:03,140
would they use

843
00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:05,880
unencrypted Communications to carry out

844
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,760
the shootout that's a good question

845
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,560
yeah I mean Communications are always

846
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:12,000
difficult

847
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,300
so it's always just a pain in the ass if

848
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:17,520
I'm sure in the future they will use

849
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:19,500
encrypted comps if I have to guess after

850
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,740
this after the the Chinese balloon is

851
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:24,240
shot because they don't also don't want

852
00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:27,000
to give away their their tactics as well

853
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,679
um but it's difficult to get all the

854
00:34:32,089 --> 00:34:30,480
players on to the correct you know

855
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,099
Communications are always an issue you

856
00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:34,800
know as a as a YouTuber now imagine if

857
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:36,300
we're trying to keep this a secret

858
00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:39,359
conversation that no one can hack

859
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:41,879
you know of course Mark won't be won't

860
00:34:45,369 --> 00:34:43,260
have the correct codes

861
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:45,379
you know something will happen

862
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,060
to uh talk like this so they can't read

863
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,839
my my lips you know Chris you come from

864
00:34:55,550 --> 00:34:53,280
different bases if it's thrown together

865
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,560
quickly you're not prepared to do War so

866
00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:58,260
you know in our normal daily training we

867
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,880
don't they I'm guessing they don't use

868
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,800
unencrypted so when they go to do the

869
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:03,119
training now and adding all these

870
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:04,680
different elements

871
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:07,619
but yeah I think looking at this now I

872
00:35:12,829 --> 00:35:09,240
think it's pretty obvious they should

873
00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:12,839
use encrypted were these air guard

874
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:17,400
yes so it was uh uh Duluth 148th Fighter

875
00:35:23,329 --> 00:35:19,560
Wing out of Minnesota

876
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:23,339
okay so the Air National Guard

877
00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:26,400
um unless it's uh I I'm guessing here

878
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:28,500
but I would guess that it's unencrypted

879
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:30,660
because that's how they carry on every

880
00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:32,099
day anyway

881
00:35:36,109 --> 00:35:33,960
I don't think they use encrypted right

882
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:36,119
during a regular training runs and so

883
00:35:41,569 --> 00:35:38,820
forth they're probably not right

884
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:41,579
yeah I mean

885
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:44,940
yeah you're not basically you just use

886
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:47,820
code words uh you're not giving out the

887
00:35:53,390 --> 00:35:51,060
information you know but like uh if you

888
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:53,400
had the Chinese if they happen to have

889
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:55,740
which is legal by the way a fishing

890
00:35:59,630 --> 00:35:58,500
vessel that had a radar on it 13 miles

891
00:36:02,510 --> 00:35:59,640
off the coast

892
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:02,520
then they can track all the airplanes

893
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:04,859
and listen to the communication and now

894
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:07,859
if I know your planes and now and I have

895
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:10,020
the communication if I know location and

896
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:12,119
communication now I can kind of put

897
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:15,300
peace tactics together and such so yeah

898
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,400
I think it's I was kind of surprised to

899
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:18,960
be honest that there that we got

900
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,280
everything I

901
00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:22,560
you know but I think for that is

902
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,780
they're not used to it uh

903
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,359
and the the people they needed to talk

904
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,000
to weren't able to go encrypted that's

905
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:31,680
probably what would happen

906
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:33,660
Chris how often do they change the code

907
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,339
words are they always the same or do

908
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:36,960
they change them out

909
00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:38,820
I mean that's where you get into com set

910
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:40,980
com security it's like the highest level

911
00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:42,599
of security you know

912
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:44,280
I don't know I don't even know that

913
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:46,500
information and I'm sorry so normally

914
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,180
it's changed out you know every day

915
00:36:51,290 --> 00:36:49,920
they'll change out

916
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:51,300
there's different radios we have

917
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:53,400
anti-jam radios that change out then you

918
00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:55,980
have encrypted radios which is just

919
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:57,900
codes basically but if they're from

920
00:37:02,410 --> 00:36:59,280
different bases maybe they don't have

921
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:02,420
the same codes put in yeah

922
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:05,820
so uh this person is worried about these

923
00:37:11,089 --> 00:37:08,640
events leading to a war and wants an

924
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:11,099
opinion How likely could that be

925
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:15,839
uh I personally don't think it's uh you

926
00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:18,720
know these are all unmanned and uh you

927
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:21,240
know things happen a lot when uh you

928
00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:22,859
know we don't even get into a war when

929
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,380
something's accidentally shot down you

930
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,320
know and there's a live life uh lost so

931
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:30,119
I I don't believe this would leave lead

932
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,280
to war but you know you never you never

933
00:37:36,109 --> 00:37:34,079
know anyone want to give an opinion on

934
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:36,119
that

935
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:37,800
um I think it'd be very stupid if it

936
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,760
happened

937
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:40,619
I would

938
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:45,359
have a long history of infiltrating

939
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:46,980
China's airspace they have a long

940
00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:49,140
history of infiltrating ours same thing

941
00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:52,859
with Russia okay and remember Gary

942
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,460
Powers being shot down in the U2 we

943
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,280
didn't go to war yeah okay so I mean

944
00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:01,680
obviously things do happen they're

945
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,200
controversial but the step to go to war

946
00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:06,720
is a very very wide step and I don't

947
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,760
believe that that's one that would be

948
00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:11,040
taken lightly just because you know it

949
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:12,900
wasn't gonna be called the balloon War

950
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:17,220
99 Luft balloons you know it's like so I

951
00:38:20,270 --> 00:38:18,480
don't know I don't think it would lead

952
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:20,280
to war to be honest I think that that's

953
00:39:05,750 --> 00:38:21,060
a

954
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:05,760
things it you know I don't know it seems

955
00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:08,700
kind of a if if they really know what

956
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:10,380
they're doing then they're feigning kind

957
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,040
of

958
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:13,680
uh naivety you know they're basically

959
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:15,300
just throwing these these things up and

960
00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:16,320
saying well we don't know what they're

961
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,940
doing but they also look like they don't

962
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:19,140
know what they're doing

963
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:22,140
yeah you know one thing too is uh

964
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,900
the Chinese balloon that got shot down

965
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:27,119
how many of our parts are actually on

966
00:39:30,109 --> 00:39:29,460
this balloon

967
00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:30,119
um

968
00:39:35,170 --> 00:39:31,800
I heard

969
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:35,180
um from some sources that I know

970
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,640
that they're actually uh a fairly a

971
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:40,380
substantial number of American-made

972
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:43,260
Parts on their spy balloon

973
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:45,960
and some of those companies as a result

974
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:48,599
have been blacklisted as a result of

975
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,480
this of this project of this incident

976
00:39:58,130 --> 00:39:54,060
and um I looked up the government

977
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,140
document the other day and found like 15

978
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,720
companies that because they supplied the

979
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,119
products for the Chinese spy balloon

980
00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:05,700
there have been blacklisted so that's

981
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:07,500
like wow talk about destroying your

982
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:08,940
business overnight

983
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,520
sure you know wow yeah I never thought

984
00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:13,440
of that aspect Chris are you trying to

985
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:15,060
bring up some more footage or is it

986
00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:17,400
you're just uh poking around I was just

987
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,079
bringing up the uh the balloon again

988
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,880
just to try and

989
00:40:25,609 --> 00:40:23,040
reference it

990
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:25,619
yeah I don't know uh

991
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:28,740
I'm curious about that that uh third

992
00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:30,540
shoot down to really see what that one

993
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:33,420
is you know do you think Martin that the

994
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:34,800
Special Forces

995
00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:37,920
the Canadian government the U.S if they

996
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:40,260
found some crazy alien technology would

997
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,420
they would they related to us

998
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:44,640
hmm

999
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:46,200
well

1000
00:41:00,589 --> 00:40:47,700
I

1001
00:41:02,089 --> 00:41:00,599
where it could be something that they

1002
00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:02,099
couldn't explain

1003
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:05,820
and I think they'd be very very slow in

1004
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,560
releasing that and I'd like to know what

1005
00:41:13,609 --> 00:41:09,599
you think Mark

1006
00:41:16,609 --> 00:41:13,619
I think the uh on the Canadian side

1007
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:16,619
um I think for a lot of their technology

1008
00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:19,500
they rely on us so I don't think they

1009
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:20,339
can

1010
00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:23,160
try to evaluate this without us if it

1011
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:24,900
was to be something like that

1012
00:41:29,329 --> 00:41:27,300
so they they would consider themselves a

1013
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:29,339
partner and they'd rather be aligned

1014
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,900
with us than not when it comes to

1015
00:41:35,569 --> 00:41:32,820
something like this so I have a feeling

1016
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,579
again gut feeling that they would

1017
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:37,440
probably

1018
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,240
have to share it with us and they may

1019
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:41,520
not want to like Chris suggested but I I

1020
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,260
think that they would probably have to

1021
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,119
in the end in order to find out what it

1022
00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:46,560
is

1023
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,660
um just a thought

1024
00:41:54,589 --> 00:41:50,400
and Chris why don't you answer your own

1025
00:42:00,650 --> 00:41:57,109
yeah I don't know you know I guess it

1026
00:42:02,089 --> 00:42:00,660
comes down to Canadian uh culture do you

1027
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,099
think that they're

1028
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:04,560
if if Trudeau found if they came to

1029
00:42:08,329 --> 00:42:06,660
Trudeau and were like this is a alien

1030
00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:08,339
technology

1031
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:10,500
you know you live up in Maine what do

1032
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:12,540
you think I think the Canadians I I

1033
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:15,480
don't know I don't know I I think we

1034
00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:17,099
have a better chance that it landed in

1035
00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:19,320
Canada you just have more people there

1036
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:21,900
and there's more people at the murder

1037
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:25,260
you know so there's more witnesses so

1038
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:27,140
maybe uh something will happen you know

1039
00:42:31,609 --> 00:42:29,880
or I don't know I tend to think yeah

1040
00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:31,619
maybe they will to actually tell us

1041
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:33,000
what's their

1042
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:34,320
I don't know I still can't believe it

1043
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:37,500
yeah here's another question that came

1044
00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:38,520
in

1045
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:39,780
um does

1046
00:42:43,849 --> 00:42:41,400
what do you think do you think we'll

1047
00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:43,859
ever see this footage

1048
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,720
um I think if it's something benign it's

1049
00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:47,520
possible but

1050
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:50,040
if it's something that Still Remains

1051
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:52,440
unexplainable and we don't know what it

1052
00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:55,800
is then probably not

1053
00:43:04,550 --> 00:42:59,160
I suspect that uh

1054
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:04,560
with the clearance World in play uh that

1055
00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:07,920
all footage is going to be impounded uh

1056
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,480
you know as soon as the plane lands that

1057
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:12,000
stuff gets offloaded uh if it's not

1058
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:14,940
already off into a server and it'll get

1059
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:16,680
encrypted at both ends right and then

1060
00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:18,359
it's going to just be stuck there for

1061
00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:20,819
review and that's probably a very

1062
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,859
lengthy process

1063
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:25,200
um having done some of that stuff not

1064
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:28,440
with the Air Force but with navy side uh

1065
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:31,020
I know that it takes forever to get

1066
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:32,520
anything even

1067
00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:36,960
simple uh non-uh secret stuff it takes a

1068
00:43:42,130 --> 00:43:39,540
long time to get it out of the Navy so I

1069
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,140
imagine it'll it'll come out someday

1070
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,940
especially if they're just balloons

1071
00:43:49,370 --> 00:43:47,220
because there's nothing they use that

1072
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:49,380
nobody knows about they know about aim

1073
00:43:55,130 --> 00:43:52,020
nines okay so they'll you they'll

1074
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:55,140
they'll they'll release that I think but

1075
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:57,000
um

1076
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,800
the politics has to be right though

1077
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:01,200
that's the thing it's all comes down to

1078
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:03,960
politics too you know what are we going

1079
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:05,640
to get out if we release this what do we

1080
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:07,380
get for it you know we get elected again

1081
00:44:09,950 --> 00:44:08,880
I mean whatever you know I don't know

1082
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:09,960
how to

1083
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,480
so I don't know but um I don't think

1084
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:15,119
there'll be uh a real reason to keep it

1085
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:17,700
secret you know what do you think Chris

1086
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,859
I just I don't think it will need to be

1087
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:21,599
kept secret but they haven't released

1088
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:23,700
any footage you know all the footage we

1089
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:26,040
have was leaked essentially or I mean I

1090
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:31,670
you did it

1091
00:44:36,589 --> 00:44:34,020
Force basically I don't know it seems

1092
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,599
like they get lucky Lou Elizondo kind of

1093
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,400
got lucky getting those Declassified but

1094
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:40,800
yeah I don't know if has it happened

1095
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:41,700
since

1096
00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:44,760
have we gotten any footage of anything

1097
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:49,260
oh we had some uh footage from uh of the

1098
00:44:55,250 --> 00:44:52,740
ranch in Colorado that was released and

1099
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:55,260
I gotta look at that stuff and

1100
00:45:01,130 --> 00:44:57,660
none of that stuff was

1101
00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:01,140
convincing to me and okay I'm skeptical

1102
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:04,920
but I'm also open-minded and uh my

1103
00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:07,680
skepticism drives the analysis I'm not

1104
00:45:11,569 --> 00:45:09,180
going to go into an analysis right and

1105
00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:11,579
say this is probably UFO I can't wait to

1106
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,140
say it's UFO

1107
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:15,599
you know I have to go in saying I don't

1108
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,579
know what this is but I have to figure

1109
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:19,200
out what it is and I'm going to remove

1110
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:22,020
all the knowns and if the knowns can't

1111
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:23,940
be removed well then too bad that's a

1112
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:25,920
way of cookie crumbles you know so I

1113
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:27,300
don't know

1114
00:45:31,970 --> 00:45:30,420
here's a uh here's a statement here

1115
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:31,980
hello Martin I heard on the news today

1116
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:35,640
that one of the UAP was metallic are the

1117
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:38,040
guests aware of that

1118
00:45:42,589 --> 00:45:39,660
yeah

1119
00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:42,599
I I haven't heard it said metallic in

1120
00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:45,240
the uh uh because he gets a glint that's

1121
00:45:49,250 --> 00:45:47,700
what I heard in the Lake Huron he said

1122
00:45:51,770 --> 00:45:49,260
yeah I can tell it I think it's metallic

1123
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:51,780
because it glints off the Sun

1124
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:55,140
but that could be mylar too right yes

1125
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:56,520
and it could also be a regular weather

1126
00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:57,960
balloon a weather balloon will also

1127
00:46:01,849 --> 00:46:00,359
glint given the right conditions

1128
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:01,859
I've seen a regular weather balloon

1129
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:04,500
looks like a point of light in the sky

1130
00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:06,540
but it's a weather balloon and it just

1131
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,280
happens to if she does the weather

1132
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,560
balloons the material they're made of

1133
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,839
can reflect like glass under the right

1134
00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:15,359
conditions all right there's they're

1135
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,680
dull white you say well those won't

1136
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:18,960
reflect light but they do all right and

1137
00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:21,300
depending on what type of weather

1138
00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:23,460
balloon it is you can get more or less

1139
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:26,579
of a glint and I've seen those Balloons

1140
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,020
look just like big metal uh teardrops in

1141
00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:33,599
the sky and they're not they're actually

1142
00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:35,460
this very very thin material that's

1143
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:38,099
actually completely clear

1144
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,380
but they do glint like glass under the

1145
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:42,960
right conditions if you uh share let me

1146
00:46:48,109 --> 00:46:46,260
share the screen here Martin well anyway

1147
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,119
whoops

1148
00:46:51,230 --> 00:46:49,920
let's see

1149
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:51,240
there we go

1150
00:46:56,569 --> 00:46:53,220
yeah there's just our our weather

1151
00:46:58,730 --> 00:46:56,579
balloon at a distance and

1152
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:58,740
you can see it kind of

1153
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,140
reflecting the Sun from the top

1154
00:47:13,210 --> 00:47:04,079
and it looks it looks kind of like a Tic

1155
00:47:18,349 --> 00:47:15,770
it's changing its shape slightly too as

1156
00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:18,359
it as it moves in the Wind You Know It

1157
00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:20,339
squashes and goes around again squashes

1158
00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:21,900
and goes around as it's going up in the

1159
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:22,980
air

1160
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:25,319
I I think it should be identifiable

1161
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,220
though

1162
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,319
um yeah

1163
00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:30,240
when they shoot these things down they

1164
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:32,700
probably already recovered a lot of the

1165
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:35,400
debris I would imagine they would have

1166
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,619
recovered a lot of the debris by now

1167
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:40,079
so they will know whether these things

1168
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,400
you know they're talking about looked

1169
00:47:47,890 --> 00:47:43,440
metallic but they'll know whether it was

1170
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:47,900
metallic or Not by the debris itself

1171
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:51,000
but I still wonder what type of Weaponry

1172
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,260
they used

1173
00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:54,960
if it was uh you know an explosion or if

1174
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:58,440
it was again like a a harpoon type of

1175
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,780
situation

1176
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,880
I heard there was two missiles on Lake

1177
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,800
Huron did you guys hear that as well I

1178
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:06,720
haven't seen actual

1179
00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:09,300
I I have not heard anything about uh

1180
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,819
here around other than you know the

1181
00:48:17,089 --> 00:48:14,280
stuff you you see on Facebook and other

1182
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:17,099
places like that and I I treat that with

1183
00:48:22,010 --> 00:48:20,400
a grain of salt yeah I don't know so I

1184
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:22,020
don't want to say that there was more

1185
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,940
than one missile but if it's such a

1186
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,680
small Target like you kind of mentioned

1187
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,880
their

1188
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,040
uh Martin if you don't hit it you know

1189
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:31,200
if you don't spear it who that's why we

1190
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:33,060
have fuses so they have a proximity

1191
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,339
sensor that will actually explode

1192
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,440
so it sounds like it just didn't fuse

1193
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,599
most likely on that little tiny balloon

1194
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:41,040
you know if that's or whatever it is

1195
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:43,140
object assembling he called it a balloon

1196
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,060
but if it didn't fuse then you may need

1197
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:47,040
a second missile

1198
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:49,740
Chris there's a question here are there

1199
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:52,680
alternative methods to shooting down you

1200
00:48:58,849 --> 00:48:55,140
know objects like these

1201
00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:58,859
uh other than using a fighter jet there

1202
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:01,500
must be right yeah there must be so yeah

1203
00:49:05,569 --> 00:49:04,260
I well didn't we used to actually

1204
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,579
capture

1205
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:07,920
but you know the sky hook can you get it

1206
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:11,599
with a C-130 like 20 000 yeah

1207
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:13,980
those big spread arms they can actually

1208
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,339
fly right into the balloon uh uh wires

1209
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,440
and and capture it

1210
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,839
I think we this is before space you know

1211
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,280
because you think about it you look back

1212
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,680
you know we didn't until the 60s right

1213
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:28,079
and I wouldn't been into space and so

1214
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,020
until that then it was balloons so high

1215
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:33,119
altitude balloons was

1216
00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:35,700
the only game in town getting up to

1217
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:38,460
space right right but then when we went

1218
00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:40,920
to space it's kind we just totally

1219
00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:42,300
forgot about balloons we're like okay

1220
00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:44,700
whatever forget it yeah I think it's

1221
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:46,740
just coming in now because it I think

1222
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:48,599
you're going to go to space in a balloon

1223
00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:51,540
before you go to space in a rocket yeah

1224
00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:52,920
I think it's just going to be more

1225
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:55,500
important in the future militarily and

1226
00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:58,140
for civilians well if you think about it

1227
00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:01,140
too okay what's the value of going up to

1228
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:04,200
70 000 60 000 feet

1229
00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:05,640
um and looking down at the Earth the

1230
00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:09,300
value is that you're not at 252 miles

1231
00:50:13,609 --> 00:50:12,119
okay and you're actually like 20 to 22

1232
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:13,619
times closer

1233
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,460
to the planet and uh I was working on a

1234
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,160
satellite project where a satellite from

1235
00:50:26,089 --> 00:50:23,280
orbit could recognize your face Chris

1236
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:26,099
and see you from space okay and

1237
00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:28,200
recognize you as a human I've seen the

1238
00:50:32,569 --> 00:50:30,119
footage I've seen it I've worked on that

1239
00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:32,579
project as a I was a model maker and

1240
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,160
making engineering models but I saw the

1241
00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:36,720
results and how it could how it could

1242
00:50:40,730 --> 00:50:39,420
work license plates from space at an

1243
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,740
oblique angle looking through the air

1244
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:42,240
they could read them off the backs of

1245
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:45,000
cars or the fronts of cars okay that's

1246
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:47,220
from space now if you're at sixty

1247
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,260
thousand feet with a technology just

1248
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,640
slightly less than that because it needs

1249
00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:52,079
to be light

1250
00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:53,880
um you've got the world at your disposal

1251
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:55,859
you have loiter time that's days long

1252
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:58,800
not just timed in seconds

1253
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:01,920
okay all right and you have the ability

1254
00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:04,559
to be that much closer so you don't need

1255
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:07,140
the highest resolution to get a very

1256
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:09,480
Superior image to your satellite

1257
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,420
right and that's uh so there is a place

1258
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:15,660
for balloon spying right in in my view

1259
00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:18,359
and I think that uh I think we've

1260
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:20,520
encountered a very public version of it

1261
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:22,680
I think they've been doing it before but

1262
00:51:27,609 --> 00:51:25,140
now everyone's looking up I looked up

1263
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:27,619
when I was coming home tonight

1264
00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:29,700
I see any balloons

1265
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,559
you know yeah you know one of the

1266
00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:32,880
questions that I've heard out there and

1267
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:35,220
I wondered if uh either one of you have

1268
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,500
heard it is why are they why would they

1269
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,599
use such primitive technology we're

1270
00:51:43,609 --> 00:51:41,400
talking let's go back to the Chinese

1271
00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:43,619
balloon itself you know why would they

1272
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,700
use such primitive technology to surveil

1273
00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:49,760
uh either one of you want to take that

1274
00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:52,680
and by the way just in uh two minutes

1275
00:52:03,829 --> 00:51:59,089
your audio's cutting out there yeah I'll

1276
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,839
just uh basically like Mark mentioned

1277
00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:06,240
uh is that balloons give an advantage

1278
00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:07,020
actually

1279
00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:09,480
we just kind of went to satellites but

1280
00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:12,359
like exact Mark I think what you're

1281
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,460
saying is a low earth orbit right so a

1282
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:15,839
low earth orbit satellite is going to go

1283
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,940
by really quickly I don't know a minute

1284
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:19,920
or how long it takes for an actual low

1285
00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:22,140
earth orbit to go by yeah you could you

1286
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:23,940
like when you watch the ISS go by it's

1287
00:52:28,970 --> 00:52:27,119
252 miles up and by the time you call

1288
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:28,980
out your kids onto the front lawn to see

1289
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:30,960
it it's already halfway through its its

1290
00:52:37,609 --> 00:52:34,559
pass so it's going to be maybe that's

1291
00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:37,619
that particular guy maybe 25 seconds 35

1292
00:52:43,309 --> 00:52:40,380
seconds at the most right yeah

1293
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:43,319
um and that's that's a lower that's Leo

1294
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:45,000
low earth orbit object but if you

1295
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:46,559
actually put something out at

1296
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:48,540
geosynchronous or but that's 22 000

1297
00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:50,760
miles away and they can sit over the

1298
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:53,160
same spot all day and all night and we

1299
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:54,780
do we have tons of them out there but

1300
00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:56,280
you can't read license plates from that

1301
00:52:59,450 --> 00:52:57,960
one right you can't read license plates

1302
00:53:01,069 --> 00:52:59,460
from there you can't see it right you

1303
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:01,079
can't get the same resolutions exactly

1304
00:53:04,250 --> 00:53:02,880
right yep so you can read a license

1305
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:04,260
plate but it's like you're going by

1306
00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:07,500
right it's like there it is and now you

1307
00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:08,940
got to wait 90 minutes to see it again

1308
00:53:13,130 --> 00:53:11,400
if it's still there but in a balloon you

1309
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,140
can loiter all day and this particular

1310
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:15,119
balloon actually had from my

1311
00:53:20,329 --> 00:53:16,859
understanding had solar panels for power

1312
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:20,339
and it had motors with propellers so it

1313
00:53:23,650 --> 00:53:21,660
could actually so we can actually

1314
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:23,660
maneuver itself

1315
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,880
or stay in one place yes well it's

1316
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:28,859
fighting a jet stream so I have yeah

1317
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:30,660
it's gonna have a little expectation

1318
00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:33,660
how was it at 60 000 feet are you in the

1319
00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:35,339
jet stream at that point

1320
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:37,980
I I think that you're still subject to

1321
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:39,240
the jet stream

1322
00:53:42,109 --> 00:53:40,319
hmm

1323
00:53:44,809 --> 00:53:42,119
okay well I want to say goodbye to

1324
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,819
everyone over there at kgra Radio we'll

1325
00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:48,000
be back next week with Julie Olson about

1326
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:51,660
a 1982 UFO encounter with actually

1327
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:53,339
debris we're going to be talking about

1328
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:55,980
that next week so uh thank you over at

1329
00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,200
kgra radio and if you two don't mind

1330
00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:00,300
continue on continuing a little bit

1331
00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:02,700
longer I know Chris what time in the

1332
00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:04,680
morning is it over there it's almost one

1333
00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:07,800
I woke up at six yeah I'm a little tired

1334
00:54:12,349 --> 00:54:09,420
but yeah I can go I can go a few more

1335
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:12,359
minutes yeah okay yeah

1336
00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:14,460
um so I'm gonna look to see um I think

1337
00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:15,780
there's been some really good questions

1338
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,119
tonight I really appreciate everyone in

1339
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:20,880
chat and we have a good uh sizable

1340
00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:24,000
audience out there today and uh I I

1341
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,800
thought there would be

1342
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,599
um a lot of people really interested in

1343
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:30,000
this and I don't think there's anyone

1344
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:32,220
here on this little mini panel that we

1345
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:33,480
have

1346
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,260
that's saying that these are aliens or

1347
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:39,839
uh you know extraterrestrials of some

1348
00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:40,980
kind

1349
00:54:43,370 --> 00:54:42,780
um but I I think

1350
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:43,380
um

1351
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:45,960
I do think though the one thing I guess

1352
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:47,460
when I was thinking about the shoot

1353
00:54:52,670 --> 00:54:51,180
Downs is okay if a typical say there's

1354
00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:52,680
so many sightings a day I understand

1355
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,280
NORAD cites about 10 000 items you know

1356
00:55:02,569 --> 00:54:59,040
objects a day to identify them things

1357
00:55:04,609 --> 00:55:02,579
like that but uh like to say a bona fide

1358
00:55:07,609 --> 00:55:04,619
peaceful

1359
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:07,619
alien comes in

1360
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:19,190
can't hear you

1361
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:23,339
just censored himself

1362
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,500
it's cutting out yeah the government the

1363
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:26,880
government censored you Martin it's okay

1364
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,240
we know the truth we know the truth are

1365
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:32,400
you able to hear me now yes okay

1366
00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:36,000
basically what I just said is uh if

1367
00:55:40,910 --> 00:55:38,720
uh if we are shooting down everything

1368
00:55:42,410 --> 00:55:40,920
and you know these objects people are

1369
00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:42,420
seeing like the Tic Tac or whatever

1370
00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:45,000
they're seeing you know coming into the

1371
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:51,170
yeah exactly no I think I get your

1372
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:54,000
question yeah cut out again but um I

1373
00:55:59,809 --> 00:55:57,780
totally agree I mean well I guess first

1374
00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,819
thing is if you look at all the accounts

1375
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,980
from the Foo Fighters and

1376
00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:03,359
it just looks like you're not gonna be

1377
00:56:06,410 --> 00:56:04,800
able to shoot these things down at least

1378
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,420
all the all the things I've seen if it's

1379
00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:09,240
if it's really is if it's real aliens

1380
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:10,680
Tic Tacs

1381
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:13,020
Etc I mean you're not going to shoot it

1382
00:56:17,690 --> 00:56:15,000
and then if you look at the Foo Fighters

1383
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:17,700
the bullet just went right into them

1384
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,520
so I I I'd be surprised that we're able

1385
00:56:24,109 --> 00:56:22,559
to shoot it down but honestly if it

1386
00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,119
really is an alien spacecraft and come

1387
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:26,339
can come here but let's say that they

1388
00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:27,540
can't get out of the way it does hit

1389
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,980
them

1390
00:56:32,329 --> 00:56:30,960
um yeah I don't think shooting at

1391
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:32,339
everything that we can't identify is a

1392
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,140
good way to go yeah I don't think any

1393
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,720
kinetic weapons are gonna you know be

1394
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:38,160
able to do that much damage thermal

1395
00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:41,520
weapons and you know hurling lead

1396
00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:43,619
I mean

1397
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:45,960
um I think after thousands of years of

1398
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:48,839
evolution Beyond us that's something

1399
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:49,980
they would have been able to work

1400
00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:51,839
through because they have to deal with

1401
00:56:56,890 --> 00:56:54,119
that kind of thing on the journey here

1402
00:56:59,390 --> 00:56:56,900
from there wherever they are there's a

1403
00:57:01,490 --> 00:56:59,400
micrometeoroid is basically like a piece

1404
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:01,500
of you know flying lead actually like a

1405
00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:02,700
bullet going through them and it would

1406
00:57:06,349 --> 00:57:04,380
go right through the craft if it was uh

1407
00:57:08,569 --> 00:57:06,359
so they have to deal with all this stuff

1408
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,579
if you two can hear me I'm gonna run and

1409
00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:10,319
get another if you can continue on

1410
00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:11,640
without me I'm gonna run and get another

1411
00:57:16,670 --> 00:57:12,660
mic

1412
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:16,680
no problem but yeah I think that being

1413
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,680
said though is if you look at Roswell it

1414
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:20,880
was a radar

1415
00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:22,920
basically right that's what they say is

1416
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:25,619
a is a radar or if you think of uh

1417
00:57:31,069 --> 00:57:29,099
nuclear weapons maybe like an EMP could

1418
00:57:33,290 --> 00:57:31,079
cause some issues but if you look at

1419
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:33,300
like a missile a missile goes Mach 3

1420
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,559
let's say

1421
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,440
these things are going Mach 36 you know

1422
00:57:42,049 --> 00:57:40,079
if it's to be counted correctly so you

1423
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,059
know it'd be like it'd be like getting

1424
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:43,920
hit by something that runs slower than

1425
00:57:48,829 --> 00:57:45,660
you you know and dying you know like

1426
00:57:51,230 --> 00:57:48,839
something yeah uh I I think that there's

1427
00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:51,240
a I do a talk all over the country and

1428
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:52,859
in fact I've got several of these

1429
00:57:57,309 --> 00:57:55,260
scheduled for the next couple months and

1430
00:58:01,010 --> 00:57:57,319
I actually talk about

1431
00:58:03,890 --> 00:58:01,020
uh some Advanced physics methodologies

1432
00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:03,900
that could be in play

1433
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:05,640
um that an advanced species could use

1434
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:09,119
that could actually get them to uh

1435
00:58:14,510 --> 00:58:12,480
be here or there uh and it's it's an

1436
00:58:17,089 --> 00:58:14,520
interdimensional theory that actually is

1437
00:58:19,010 --> 00:58:17,099
not Science Fiction it's actually deals

1438
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:19,020
with string theory and a particular

1439
00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:20,640
variant of string theory called Randall

1440
00:58:24,770 --> 00:58:23,099
sundrome one where you actually have our

1441
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,780
four dimensions and then you have a

1442
00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:27,119
Fifth Dimension and that Fifth Dimension

1443
00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:29,160
is a highly warped location and if you

1444
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,020
can get into that Fifth Dimension you

1445
00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:33,119
could effectively punch out of x y z

1446
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:35,400
moving through time go into this Fifth

1447
00:58:37,789 --> 00:58:36,780
Dimension then punch in anywhere else

1448
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:37,799
you want

1449
00:58:44,349 --> 00:58:42,000
and as Fantastical as that sounds and as

1450
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:44,359
silly in science fictiony as that sounds

1451
00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:47,700
it turns out that there's actually a

1452
00:58:53,809 --> 00:58:50,460
real basis to this and it has to do with

1453
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,819
with particles that the Large Hadron

1454
00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:55,680
Collider it's CERN they're actually

1455
00:59:01,970 --> 00:58:58,200
studying right now these are called

1456
00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:01,980
collusicline particles and I know an

1457
00:59:05,630 --> 00:59:03,420
aerospace engineer and several

1458
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,640
physicists who are you know right on

1459
00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:08,160
board with this concept of hey this is

1460
00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:10,020
probably how they're going to do it if

1461
00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:11,880
they can get here from there they're

1462
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:13,740
going to punch out their space and punch

1463
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:16,260
into ours and not have to travel the

1464
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,000
intervening space in between

1465
00:59:23,210 --> 00:59:20,640
do this that's pretty interesting stuff

1466
00:59:24,890 --> 00:59:23,220
but one other point I guess that that I

1467
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:24,900
thought of is

1468
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:27,420
um still old technology does tend to

1469
00:59:31,789 --> 00:59:29,880
work you know like uh with all of our

1470
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:31,799
fancy weapons and all of our fancy

1471
00:59:36,829 --> 00:59:34,319
systems and Radars and everything uh

1472
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,839
bullets are still the primary weapon

1473
00:59:41,630 --> 00:59:39,119
you know so bullets are still going to

1474
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,640
work they work very well and if you look

1475
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,160
at in the the wars look in Iraq and

1476
00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:46,319
Afghanistan how we effectively lost was

1477
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,020
from improvised explosive devices so

1478
00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:52,079
just very rudimentary explosive devices

1479
00:59:55,309 --> 00:59:53,339
but they're everywhere they're

1480
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:55,319
ubiquitous they're simple

1481
01:00:01,010 --> 00:59:58,260
you know so I think that's why that's

1482
01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:01,020
why we're going the mass camera route is

1483
01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:03,059
just passive sensors you know we want

1484
01:00:07,730 --> 01:00:06,180
thousands of simple passive sensors uh

1485
01:00:10,430 --> 01:00:07,740
to try and correlate that data together

1486
01:00:13,069 --> 01:00:10,440
you know so the idea is simple but if

1487
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:13,079
you Mass you know decentralize over many

1488
01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:16,260
thousands of units maybe we can break

1489
01:00:19,730 --> 01:00:17,880
through so even if they have amazingly

1490
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:19,740
advanced technology over us

1491
01:00:24,589 --> 01:00:22,380
I still want to push to test you know I

1492
01:00:27,530 --> 01:00:24,599
still want to see if we can get through

1493
01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:27,540
I agree with that because most likely uh

1494
01:00:32,569 --> 01:00:30,180
they're using technology that at one

1495
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:32,579
point or another takes them outside our

1496
01:00:37,010 --> 01:00:34,440
ability to see what they're doing quote

1497
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:37,020
unquote because they moved into that

1498
01:00:42,049 --> 01:00:40,200
Fifth Dimension say now if that is what

1499
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,059
happened and if that's really what's

1500
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:43,920
happening and again string theory has to

1501
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:46,500
be proven before they can actually say

1502
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:48,420
that that's true they have to have a

1503
01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:50,160
test that can even prove String Theory

1504
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,700
first that's correct and then that's but

1505
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:55,440
um that's what the Large Hadron Collider

1506
01:00:58,970 --> 01:00:57,240
they're working on over there especially

1507
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,980
with these KK particles that they're

1508
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,480
doing the collusicline particles well

1509
01:01:04,609 --> 01:01:01,680
anyway okay

1510
01:01:08,329 --> 01:01:04,619
um the whole point here is that at some

1511
01:01:10,210 --> 01:01:08,339
point uh entering our dimensions and

1512
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:10,220
leaving our dimensional space

1513
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:13,020
they leave going each way what I call

1514
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:15,720
skid marks okay yeah funny funny name

1515
01:01:20,089 --> 01:01:18,119
every 15 year old loves me okay but

1516
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:20,099
these skid marks are

1517
01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:22,200
um are the signs that they're

1518
01:01:28,990 --> 01:01:25,140
transitioning to and from one place to

1519
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:29,000
another uh example when they transition

1520
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:32,940
out of our dimensional space we might

1521
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,160
see a burst of gamma rays

1522
01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:37,920
okay when they transition in we might

1523
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,380
see a similar burst of gamma rays

1524
01:01:45,470 --> 01:01:42,960
followed by an infrared signature

1525
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:45,480
followed by potentially a high energy

1526
01:01:50,030 --> 01:01:47,880
signature and the ultraviolet end okay

1527
01:01:52,849 --> 01:01:50,040
and then they'll manifest to be seen

1528
01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,859
with our equipment right uh even easier

1529
01:01:56,270 --> 01:01:54,359
so

1530
01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:56,280
um that's the kind of thing that I was

1531
01:02:00,770 --> 01:01:58,680
after in when we were working with Doug

1532
01:02:02,990 --> 01:02:00,780
Trumbull you know to try and do this

1533
01:02:04,250 --> 01:02:03,000
this UFO detection system had he not

1534
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:04,260
passed that we would have been doing it

1535
01:02:07,789 --> 01:02:05,760
so

1536
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:07,799
um you know Jacques Valley was kind

1537
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:11,520
enough to introduce me to Avi Loeb but I

1538
01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:12,960
worked with Avi in a couple projects

1539
01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:15,900
before this and so I know him and he's

1540
01:02:22,089 --> 01:02:18,540
trying to do a similar thing and again

1541
01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:22,099
using high tech to try and detect

1542
01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:24,660
these so-called skid marks of an

1543
01:02:30,289 --> 01:02:27,000
advanced species that might be utilizing

1544
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:30,299
our near space that's very cool I think

1545
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:32,160
that's where where it is right I mean

1546
01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:35,280
and if everyone has released everybody

1547
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:37,799
has one of these okay these can be

1548
01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:39,900
leveraged into doing some amazing things

1549
01:02:43,849 --> 01:02:41,880
as well

1550
01:02:45,710 --> 01:02:43,859
you can actually detect gamma rays with

1551
01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:45,720
this thing did you know that

1552
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,700
there's a gamma ray detector that you

1553
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:49,440
can you put on your iPhone believe it or

1554
01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:50,339
not

1555
01:02:54,530 --> 01:02:52,380
it reminds me of uepx where they

1556
01:02:58,130 --> 01:02:54,540
detected a tear in the sky

1557
01:03:01,010 --> 01:02:58,140
they detected that muon theater the 43

1558
01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:01,020
megawatt muon detection and that queued

1559
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,319
up their Optical UFO dap system yeah and

1560
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:06,240
that's where they caught the tear in the

1561
01:03:08,990 --> 01:03:07,680
sky that's interesting yeah kind of

1562
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:09,000
similar from the movie tearing this guy

1563
01:03:12,589 --> 01:03:11,220
yep for the movie tearing the sky that's

1564
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,599
Carolyn's movie I was just talking to

1565
01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:14,640
her the other day uh because she's doing

1566
01:03:17,569 --> 01:03:16,020
another one and I'm in that one we're

1567
01:03:19,609 --> 01:03:17,579
going to be talking about that okay see

1568
01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:19,619
yeah I interviewed her she taught yeah

1569
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:21,240
it was a great interview she mentioned

1570
01:03:24,650 --> 01:03:23,160
uh that movie but she couldn't release

1571
01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:24,660
any more details about it or something

1572
01:03:27,470 --> 01:03:26,579
she didn't talk about it how long ago

1573
01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:27,480
was that

1574
01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:30,180
a month I think okay

1575
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:31,859
yeah

1576
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:35,400
for the next one that's what we're doing

1577
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:38,400
right now so all right cool yeah yeah so

1578
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,480
you're gonna have a lot more interviews

1579
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:41,760
with her I can tell you that so anything

1580
01:03:47,870 --> 01:03:45,119
here's a question uh any theories on

1581
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:47,880
well first of all is my audio working it

1582
01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:49,619
should be working right yeah yep is

1583
01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:51,240
there any theories on why these balloons

1584
01:03:57,230 --> 01:03:53,220
were traveling at a relatively low

1585
01:03:59,450 --> 01:03:57,240
altitude of 60 000 feet is uh that's

1586
01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:59,460
kind of a high altitude for uh traveling

1587
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,400
for a balloon but forty thousand

1588
01:04:06,829 --> 01:04:04,559
um I guess you'd consider that a low

1589
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:06,839
altitude and I don't know if the

1590
01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:10,079
question is uh because of the there's

1591
01:04:15,230 --> 01:04:13,020
more of a visual at that point I mean

1592
01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:15,240
really at 40 000 feet it's just a car

1593
01:04:19,490 --> 01:04:16,740
sized balloon you probably won't see it

1594
01:04:22,250 --> 01:04:19,500
right yeah but still okay keep in mind

1595
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:22,260
that for me okay if we consider this

1596
01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:25,440
traveling a relatively low altitude uh

1597
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:26,760
how do we know that balloon wasn't

1598
01:04:31,309 --> 01:04:29,040
transitioning to a higher altitude

1599
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:31,319
okay if it's a balloon they're gonna

1600
01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:33,540
keep climbing until they reach that

1601
01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:35,700
equilibrium point okay and that

1602
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:37,740
equilibrium point will be the weight of

1603
01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:39,059
the mass of the whole Mass they have

1604
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,099
plus the buoyancy that the balloon gives

1605
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,440
and they could technically reach a

1606
01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:45,900
neutral buoyancy position where they'll

1607
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:47,940
just float in a certain altitude right

1608
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:50,880
so but I don't know for sure whether

1609
01:04:55,250 --> 01:04:52,920
these this is so early in the game we

1610
01:04:57,650 --> 01:04:55,260
don't know whether this that 40 000 one

1611
01:04:59,809 --> 01:04:57,660
was translating to a higher altitude at

1612
01:05:01,309 --> 01:04:59,819
that point we still don't know that it

1613
01:05:02,510 --> 01:05:01,319
could have been true yeah I think they

1614
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:02,520
were going the other way I think

1615
01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:08,089
yeah because like ours are our helium

1616
01:05:13,549 --> 01:05:11,160
balloon the one we sent up up to 110 000

1617
01:05:15,650 --> 01:05:13,559
feet and then it blew up you know we

1618
01:05:17,390 --> 01:05:15,660
didn't want it to go very far

1619
01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:17,400
but if we didn't if we put in less

1620
01:05:21,650 --> 01:05:18,900
healing because we were very concerned

1621
01:05:23,809 --> 01:05:21,660
right so we overfilled it uh that was

1622
01:05:25,670 --> 01:05:23,819
probably the biggest concern was that it

1623
01:05:27,770 --> 01:05:25,680
wouldn't go high enough it to explode

1624
01:05:29,089 --> 01:05:27,780
and so what would happen then is it

1625
01:05:31,490 --> 01:05:29,099
would just float around in the

1626
01:05:34,490 --> 01:05:31,500
stratosphere and and slowly descend as

1627
01:05:35,630 --> 01:05:34,500
it's leaking out helium yeah yep so I

1628
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:35,640
think these are probably actually on the

1629
01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:37,740
way down like that balloon the Chinese

1630
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:39,480
balloon this by balloon that was shut

1631
01:05:44,329 --> 01:05:41,700
down at 60 you know this five balloon at

1632
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:44,339
64 000 feet it was probably much higher

1633
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:47,160
earlier as it was crossing over the U.S

1634
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:48,720
and that may have been why they elected

1635
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:51,119
not to shoot it maybe earlier it's you

1636
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:52,680
know a lot more difficult 100 000 feet

1637
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,370
we'll eventually get I'm sure the

1638
01:06:05,089 --> 01:06:04,079
details on its altitude profile and what

1639
01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:05,099
it did

1640
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,799
go ahead Martin I'm sorry no I do think

1641
01:06:10,609 --> 01:06:09,359
that we're going to continue to see

1642
01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:10,619
shootdowns

1643
01:06:19,730 --> 01:06:16,789
if they keep incur in doing these

1644
01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:19,740
incursions and probably

1645
01:06:23,390 --> 01:06:21,720
you know I mean they're using it for

1646
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:23,400
political points too keep in mind right

1647
01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:25,140
I mean we got to be careful

1648
01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:27,780
yeah that's true yeah I think they're

1649
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:29,160
probably not it's probably not necessary

1650
01:06:33,609 --> 01:06:32,099
you know I think they'll my feeling is

1651
01:06:35,870 --> 01:06:33,619
that uh

1652
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,880
they've been a little trigger happy or

1653
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:37,680
maybe the consensuses they've been too

1654
01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:40,079
trigger happy yeah like you know you

1655
01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:41,579
probably didn't need to shoot down any

1656
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:43,380
of the balloons to be honest

1657
01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:46,680
um you could have tried to track them

1658
01:06:51,230 --> 01:06:49,020
no what about what about the Chinese

1659
01:06:52,730 --> 01:06:51,240
balloon in particular

1660
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:52,740
um because you know the Chinese were

1661
01:06:57,770 --> 01:06:55,440
touting off that this thing was just a

1662
01:06:59,690 --> 01:06:57,780
weather balloon and if we did not shoot

1663
01:07:01,789 --> 01:06:59,700
it down we wouldn't in recover then we

1664
01:07:03,529 --> 01:07:01,799
wouldn't be able to say hey look you

1665
01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:03,539
know you have egg on your face this sir

1666
01:07:09,890 --> 01:07:06,119
egg foo young as someone said uh because

1667
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,900
you know now you have to explain uh why

1668
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:11,520
this you were saying it was a weather

1669
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:12,720
balloon and it's not you were

1670
01:07:18,650 --> 01:07:15,119
surveilling us brinksmanship

1671
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,660
in a word uh it's it's how governments

1672
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:20,160
interact with each other at the public

1673
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:22,740
level right uh they're gonna complain

1674
01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:24,960
and say that we violated this that and

1675
01:07:28,370 --> 01:07:26,819
the other thing how dare you shoot down

1676
01:07:29,569 --> 01:07:28,380
our balloon that we are flying over your

1677
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,579
country

1678
01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:31,200
and how long would our balloon last

1679
01:07:36,589 --> 01:07:33,660
flying over their country okay yeah

1680
01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:36,599
wasn't there something like that exactly

1681
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:38,520
yeah and they just shot one down

1682
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,680
actually I don't know if it was ours but

1683
01:07:45,289 --> 01:07:42,559
they did just shoot another one down

1684
01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:45,299
so they're coming from somewhere

1685
01:07:49,549 --> 01:07:47,640
yeah um and there's probably some little

1686
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:49,559
alien somewhere going hey Target let's

1687
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,780
set up another one okay there we go

1688
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,520
right there you know yeah it's a weather

1689
01:07:56,770 --> 01:07:55,200
balloon they spell my weather balloon

1690
01:07:59,809 --> 01:07:56,780
Mommy

1691
01:08:01,730 --> 01:07:59,819
I love that graphic Dean my friend Dean

1692
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:01,740
sent that me that to me I think it's

1693
01:08:04,609 --> 01:08:03,420
good though that and someone said here's

1694
01:08:07,490 --> 01:08:04,619
the pizza and we're going to be

1695
01:08:10,250 --> 01:08:07,500
interviewing the pilot to the balloon

1696
01:08:12,109 --> 01:08:10,260
oh that's just great yeah

1697
01:08:20,349 --> 01:08:12,119
I saw that movie no way he's smiling

1698
01:08:25,070 --> 01:08:23,510
I forgot about that Mark what'd you say

1699
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:25,080
Chris I'm sorry did you see they made a

1700
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:27,839
UAP another UAP task force now

1701
01:08:33,229 --> 01:08:30,120
oh yeah yeah I saw that yeah yeah yeah

1702
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,239
yeah or the balloon task force is that

1703
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,520
what it's going to be all right is it a

1704
01:08:40,370 --> 01:08:37,440
balloon test for us I I don't know all I

1705
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,380
saw was uh yeah that's right of course

1706
01:08:45,950 --> 01:08:43,199
I'm not sure you know I'll tell you

1707
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,960
what's interesting he said okay uh that

1708
01:08:52,370 --> 01:08:48,239
is that blinking or whoever that is

1709
01:08:54,769 --> 01:08:52,380
who is that guy uh this is John Kirby oh

1710
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,779
it's your Kirby Right Curry yeah Kirby

1711
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:56,880
stated uh which I thought was really

1712
01:09:00,430 --> 01:08:57,839
interesting

1713
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,440
he said uh when asked the question

1714
01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:02,640
literally ask the question could these

1715
01:09:09,050 --> 01:09:04,859
be alien spacecraft

1716
01:09:10,430 --> 01:09:09,060
I mean he should have said oh I I would

1717
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:10,440
absolutely not think so or something

1718
01:09:13,249 --> 01:09:11,759
like that but no he said at this point

1719
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:13,259
we don't know what they are

1720
01:09:16,430 --> 01:09:14,699
like wow

1721
01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:16,440
well that's interesting

1722
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:19,500
you know because the the terms alien

1723
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,359
spacecraft or extraterrestrial craft

1724
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,759
were in that previous sentence and he

1725
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:25,440
said we can't say what they are okay

1726
01:09:29,329 --> 01:09:27,779
because we don't know

1727
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:29,339
so I thought that was pretty interesting

1728
01:09:35,809 --> 01:09:33,359
yeah uh I I pulled a uh there was a

1729
01:09:37,249 --> 01:09:35,819
headline that I did pull uh about that

1730
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:37,259
what do you you want to turn that up

1731
01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:39,900
Chris uh no I was just playing yeah um

1732
01:09:43,550 --> 01:09:42,120
just interesting that they made this

1733
01:09:46,370 --> 01:09:43,560
task force now

1734
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:46,380
yeah I'm curious to see so I I think

1735
01:09:49,070 --> 01:09:47,520
there'll be

1736
01:09:50,990 --> 01:09:49,080
I think there's other ways to track

1737
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,000
these objects you probably don't need to

1738
01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:53,520
shoot them down we can probably capture

1739
01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:56,699
them using other methods but yeah I

1740
01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:58,380
don't know it was good to see I think I

1741
01:10:02,810 --> 01:09:59,640
was impressed with all the pilots

1742
01:10:04,910 --> 01:10:02,820
actions you know they were definitely

1743
01:10:07,729 --> 01:10:04,920
they did their job

1744
01:10:10,490 --> 01:10:07,739
yeah uh and

1745
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:10,500
so but the only thing that that concerns

1746
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:14,940
me also is uh you know maybe this won't

1747
01:10:21,169 --> 01:10:17,280
lead to a war or whatever but could this

1748
01:10:23,149 --> 01:10:21,179
lead to uh you know more surveillance I

1749
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,159
mean do you think that this is going to

1750
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:25,679
continue on or do you think this has

1751
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,480
always been going on and we're just

1752
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:29,280
discovering it

1753
01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:31,560
I think we've always known it's been

1754
01:10:37,010 --> 01:10:35,159
there I think that it won't stop and I

1755
01:10:40,490 --> 01:10:37,020
think it's just going to continue we

1756
01:10:42,770 --> 01:10:40,500
surveil them they surveil us okay the

1757
01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:42,780
Russians watch the two of us and the two

1758
01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:44,820
of us watch them and it

1759
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,219
it's ongoing Everyone's Watching

1760
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:49,679
everybody else it's the game of spycraft

1761
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:52,860
and that and honestly

1762
01:10:57,709 --> 01:10:55,440
um it's actually comforting to know that

1763
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,719
everybody's watching each other okay to

1764
01:11:01,970 --> 01:10:59,460
be honest with you because it means that

1765
01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:01,980
we'll know if something really really

1766
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:04,500
bad is about to happen because someone's

1767
01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:06,239
going to be able to give it away you

1768
01:11:11,090 --> 01:11:09,060
know so in a way I hate to say it that

1769
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:11,100
way but it's kind of comforting

1770
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:13,739
you know We're Not The Only Game in Town

1771
01:11:19,550 --> 01:11:15,920
certainly we have plenty of Technology

1772
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:19,560
uh we are probably the most feared

1773
01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:21,420
country in the world

1774
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:23,219
um and we do have the most technology

1775
01:11:26,990 --> 01:11:24,900
and we have the most capability we're

1776
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:27,000
the largest standing army in any of any

1777
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,640
army in the planet okay and that has to

1778
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:31,199
do with all the people that have guns of

1779
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:33,780
their own you know so I don't think we

1780
01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:35,280
have to worry about

1781
01:11:42,530 --> 01:11:39,420
um an attack uh on our on our land mass

1782
01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:42,540
I mean Red Dawn would never happen not

1783
01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:44,219
in the current situation that's my

1784
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:46,739
feeling so I think that we're pretty

1785
01:11:51,010 --> 01:11:48,420
secure in that way but I do think that

1786
01:11:53,870 --> 01:11:51,020
there's a lot of people that are

1787
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:53,880
a little Trigger Happy in the government

1788
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:56,159
you know and we gotta

1789
01:12:00,830 --> 01:11:58,440
bring them in for sure

1790
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:00,840
now this comment supposedly they haven't

1791
01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:02,760
recovered anything other than the first

1792
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:05,699
Chinese balloon are either one of you

1793
01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:07,380
have either one of you read anything

1794
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:09,300
along these lines

1795
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:10,679
I mean I would think that didn't

1796
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:13,199
something go down on an ice Mass

1797
01:12:17,149 --> 01:12:14,640
and it seems yeah he was talking about

1798
01:12:20,990 --> 01:12:17,159
the dead horse up in prudo Bay Alaska on

1799
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:22,970
it seems like that would be a slam dunk

1800
01:12:27,890 --> 01:12:25,140
for recovery

1801
01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:27,900
yeah I was I meant to look up the

1802
01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:31,140
weather I haven't but if it's clear you

1803
01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:32,460
should be able to just drive out there

1804
01:12:37,970 --> 01:12:34,500
and find it they did say that weather

1805
01:12:42,130 --> 01:12:37,980
was a factor uh out there so oh I see

1806
01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:42,140
yep and of course don't forget it's dark

1807
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,940
okay it's not like it's daytime out

1808
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,800
there you know it's gonna be dusk at the

1809
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:48,719
minimum dark at the most you know for

1810
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:50,760
most of that time

1811
01:12:55,790 --> 01:12:53,640
do we actually have lasers do either one

1812
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:55,800
of you know do we have lasers that could

1813
01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:59,040
actually uh work for for something like

1814
01:13:03,890 --> 01:13:00,840
this that was the first thing I thought

1815
01:13:06,649 --> 01:13:03,900
of was the Airborne laser

1816
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:06,659
I would yeah that's a great idea Mitch I

1817
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:08,520
mean you're not you're not wasting uh a

1818
01:13:14,330 --> 01:13:12,719
600 000 missile if you miss if you're

1819
01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:14,340
shooting with a laser I'm sure there's

1820
01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:16,260
you know I mean there's great amount of

1821
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:17,940
energy to produce the laser that would

1822
01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:20,340
do something uh but that's that's all

1823
01:13:25,970 --> 01:13:22,380
you're really uh using is the energy

1824
01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:25,980
part of it well in Hawaii and on the

1825
01:13:31,610 --> 01:13:29,400
Mauna Kea uh they they routinely beam a

1826
01:13:33,050 --> 01:13:31,620
green laser to the Moon to hit the Retro

1827
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,060
reflector array which was made at my

1828
01:13:37,010 --> 01:13:35,280
University by the way and bring back the

1829
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:37,020
signal so they could make gauge the

1830
01:13:42,350 --> 01:13:39,480
distance to the Moon okay

1831
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,360
um that green laser is not high power

1832
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:44,159
but you do have a problem of beam

1833
01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:46,320
Divergence the farther out the beam Goes

1834
01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:49,800
The Wider it gets and it spreads more so

1835
01:13:54,649 --> 01:13:52,380
if you're gonna pack a punch you have to

1836
01:13:56,330 --> 01:13:54,659
pack a punch that can work in a diverged

1837
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,340
beam too because by the time it gets in

1838
01:14:00,350 --> 01:13:58,560
a balloon it's not going to be a being

1839
01:14:02,410 --> 01:14:00,360
this wide it can slice through your head

1840
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:02,420
okay it's going to be a beam that's

1841
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:05,640
possibly a foot or more wide so it's

1842
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:07,140
going to have to have a lot of energy

1843
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,840
and a lot of good collimated light and

1844
01:14:14,810 --> 01:14:11,520
good weather

1845
01:14:16,850 --> 01:14:14,820
you have to have clean crisp air between

1846
01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:16,860
you and that balloon in order to get

1847
01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:19,380
that energy beam there so can it be done

1848
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,900
sure we have we have energy weapons of

1849
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:24,480
sorts uh right now you know that we can

1850
01:14:29,209 --> 01:14:27,600
use but uh lasers are that's kind of

1851
01:14:31,790 --> 01:14:29,219
tough you could just beam a laser on it

1852
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,800
sure you know if it was here I would

1853
01:14:34,610 --> 01:14:32,880
attempt it I would have attempted to

1854
01:14:38,209 --> 01:14:34,620
take one of my argon lasers and try and

1855
01:14:40,370 --> 01:14:38,219
Light It Up you know but Chris this

1856
01:14:42,290 --> 01:14:40,380
question's for you if they use the sky

1857
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:42,300
blue balloons would they be harder to

1858
01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:44,460
shoot down don't they take a lock on

1859
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:47,159
like an object through radar or do they

1860
01:14:51,169 --> 01:14:48,900
do it visually

1861
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:51,179
yeah that was the kind of the issue I

1862
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:52,800
was talking about is they had radar

1863
01:14:57,709 --> 01:14:55,380
locks most of the time and their missile

1864
01:14:59,630 --> 01:14:57,719
could see it in their targeting pop but

1865
01:15:01,790 --> 01:14:59,640
they couldn't see with their eyes until

1866
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,800
I was too late yeah it was too small

1867
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:03,360
right

1868
01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:04,500
um so yeah

1869
01:15:09,169 --> 01:15:06,780
they couldn't see it anyway you know the

1870
01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:09,179
the one over Lake Huron so if you

1871
01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:11,159
painted it blue yeah maybe it's even

1872
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:12,840
harder to see I don't think it would

1873
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:14,719
have mattered it's still difficult

1874
01:15:19,729 --> 01:15:17,040
but yeah it matters obviously if you

1875
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,739
look at the planes you know in Alaska we

1876
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,080
had these white and black painted Jets

1877
01:15:27,229 --> 01:15:24,719
and in the winter those things would

1878
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:27,239
just disappear staring down you know but

1879
01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:28,260
in the summer

1880
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,120
you could see him see him pretty easily

1881
01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:32,159
looked down so yeah it does matter

1882
01:15:36,050 --> 01:15:33,080
yeah

1883
01:15:38,330 --> 01:15:36,060
can I show uh uh my screen a little bit

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01:15:39,050 --> 01:15:38,340
here Martin can I uh hang up can I share

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01:15:41,689 --> 01:15:39,060
some

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01:15:43,970 --> 01:15:41,699
yeah sure oh you have a you know how to

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01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:43,980
share a screen on that Mark yeah I am

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01:15:47,450 --> 01:15:46,320
I'm just trying to uh

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uh

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only way to shoot them down lasers for

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01:15:59,630 --> 01:15:58,020
blasting them with radar I don't think

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01:16:01,010 --> 01:15:59,640
blasting them with radar would do

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01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:01,020
anything

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01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:03,480
um that that would be if it was under

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01:16:08,030 --> 01:16:06,179
some type of electrical control or

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01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:08,040
something and if it's a balloon it's not

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01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:09,780
going to do anything

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01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:12,840
no the radar the radar would just bounce

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01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:15,719
off you see yep we got an echo here it

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01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:19,140
is we see it yeah Mark are you are you

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01:16:23,149 --> 01:16:20,640
able to share your screen

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01:16:24,530 --> 01:16:23,159
yeah I just got so many screens here

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01:16:26,330 --> 01:16:24,540
where the heck these come from I mean

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01:16:29,050 --> 01:16:26,340
let me find them let me just

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01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:29,060
look at this there has been supposed

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01:16:36,350 --> 01:16:32,520
many shoot uh crashes at least right

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01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:36,360
suppose it crashes yeah yeah

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01:16:41,390 --> 01:16:38,960
uh so yeah I mean

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01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:41,400
oh here you go okay I'm gonna add this

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now Mark yeah this is the rumored image

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01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,000
of the recovery of the Chinese balloon

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01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,920
are you saying you don't think it's a

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01:16:54,530 --> 01:16:51,120
real image

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01:16:57,729 --> 01:16:54,540
it's another Roswell thing this this to

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01:17:01,250 --> 01:16:57,739
me it looks almost too planned

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01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:01,260
okay it looks almost too planned and too

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01:17:04,970 --> 01:17:03,840
perfect so I'm not sure if this is the

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01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:04,980
real thing I'm just letting you know

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01:17:10,430 --> 01:17:06,960
that this is what's out there as the

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01:17:13,130 --> 01:17:10,440
rumored uh recovery uh

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01:17:16,430 --> 01:17:13,140
image for that balloon well I just

1922
01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:18,350
well you are a boater so you would know

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01:17:22,189 --> 01:17:20,520
I am and uh you know I was under the

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01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,199
objects and I just happened to be on

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01:17:27,290 --> 01:17:24,239
that no I'm just kidding of course yeah

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yeah but anyway interesting yeah there

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you go well that's it that's uh so let

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01:17:36,350 --> 01:17:34,020
me uh uh I'll stop that yeah interesting

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01:17:38,810 --> 01:17:36,360
so uh I've had a wonderful night with

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you guys um I I guess I'd like to close

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with um you know uh

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do you think I don't know do you think

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01:17:48,410 --> 01:17:46,020
we're gonna know

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01:17:50,090 --> 01:17:48,420
uh what the heck's going on or do you

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01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:50,100
think this will just continue a mystery

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01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:51,600
I don't know why don't we start with you

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01:17:56,030 --> 01:17:53,640
Chris

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I I think already we've learned a lot of

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01:17:59,810 --> 01:17:57,600
information

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and they seem actually kind of

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01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:01,920
transparent at least to give initial

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01:18:04,970 --> 01:18:03,480
information you know they talk about

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01:18:06,890 --> 01:18:04,980
Northern command they talk about the

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01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,900
radars

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01:18:10,850 --> 01:18:09,120
so I don't know I'm optimistic that will

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01:18:13,070 --> 01:18:10,860
that will continue to to get more

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01:18:15,470 --> 01:18:13,080
information but we'll see I think they

1948
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:15,480
better come out see we're very we're

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01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:17,520
very ephemeral about everything you know

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01:18:21,950 --> 01:18:19,980
I mean you have to search for the war in

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01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:21,960
Ukraine you have to look for something

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01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:25,440
that's really dramatic but we we were

1953
01:18:29,630 --> 01:18:27,360
going a million miles an hour with our

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01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:29,640
information and get bored with things

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01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:32,280
really fast uh I've been afraid that's

1956
01:18:36,649 --> 01:18:34,380
going to happen with the UFO topic UAP

1957
01:18:38,270 --> 01:18:36,659
Topic in general when it comes to the

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01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,280
government paying attention to it and

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01:18:43,970 --> 01:18:41,280
all that but uh I I don't I think that

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01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:43,980
if there's two things I personally think

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01:18:49,610 --> 01:18:46,140
they may stay quiet about it and then it

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01:18:51,950 --> 01:18:49,620
may just kind of Fade Away uh or if if

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01:18:53,570 --> 01:18:51,960
they get it out at the transparency they

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01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:53,580
better do it pretty quickly

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uh what do you think Mark

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01:19:02,450 --> 01:18:59,640
I I think that uh just like with the

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01:19:04,910 --> 01:19:02,460
Nimitz incident stuff uh it took many

1968
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:04,920
many many years before this stuff hit

1969
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:07,380
the light of day however

1970
01:19:13,370 --> 01:19:10,980
now that it has and now that people are

1971
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,380
tuned to it and now that mass media is

1972
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,080
picking it up now that Tucker Carlson is

1973
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:19,199
having uh UFO folks on his show all the

1974
01:19:24,290 --> 01:19:22,140
time all right and and Joe Rogan is

1975
01:19:27,290 --> 01:19:24,300
having people that are talking about it

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01:19:28,970 --> 01:19:27,300
all the time uh I have a feeling that

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01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:28,980
the information is going to move faster

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01:19:34,130 --> 01:19:31,860
and I think that we're going to see a

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01:19:36,290 --> 01:19:34,140
lot more of this coming out I think that

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01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:36,300
the government they may try to keep it

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01:19:40,250 --> 01:19:37,920
secret

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01:19:42,590 --> 01:19:40,260
um and you know certainly the the folks

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01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:42,600
in uniform will do so but you're going

1984
01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:44,940
to have people that are going to be

1985
01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:46,440
seeking the truth and they're gonna

1986
01:19:51,169 --> 01:19:49,560
they're gonna be like pitbulls and uh

1987
01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:51,179
they're gonna find out everything

1988
01:19:55,370 --> 01:19:53,580
they'll be people out there digging for

1989
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,380
for answers and

1990
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:57,120
I know that we're going to see more and

1991
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:58,800
I I think that the government's going to

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01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:01,199
have to play ball

1993
01:20:08,450 --> 01:20:05,040
at this point right yeah uh yeah I think

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01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:08,460
so I I hope so too uh it's been a real

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01:20:12,350 --> 01:20:10,380
pleasure guys really it's really been a

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01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:12,360
lot of fun this has been a great time

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01:20:17,090 --> 01:20:14,820
and thank you so much for both of you

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01:20:19,729 --> 01:20:17,100
for taking the time I appreciate it so

1999
01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:19,739
uh how can they Chris you have a great

2000
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:22,920
active Channel and uh I was lucky enough

2001
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,440
to be the first guy to interview you on

2002
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,320
UFOs and I've been on your show a couple

2003
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:30,000
of times it's been a lot of fun and

2004
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:31,920
you've you've really grown that YouTube

2005
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:33,900
channel you do a wonderful job tell

2006
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:36,000
everyone how to get your your channel

2007
01:20:41,630 --> 01:20:38,520
yeah thank you Martin uh just my name

2008
01:20:43,070 --> 01:20:41,640
Chris Ledo or uh lato files you can also

2009
01:20:44,810 --> 01:20:43,080
search for that but yeah I appreciate

2010
01:20:46,910 --> 01:20:44,820
all that I I appreciate all your

2011
01:20:48,050 --> 01:20:46,920
mentorship Martin uh it's been great you

2012
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:48,060
know because you called me initially

2013
01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:50,159
right when I uh made my first video

2014
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:53,640
about uh uaps and you said hey and you

2015
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:55,980
want to be in my UFO show you know and I

2016
01:20:58,729 --> 01:20:57,600
had to think about it and it took I took

2017
01:20:59,930 --> 01:20:58,739
a few days to think about it you

2018
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,940
remember I didn't get back to you right

2019
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:01,679
away that's right that's right and that

2020
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:04,020
was the thought was you know yeah and

2021
01:21:06,830 --> 01:21:05,760
that's where the stigma I was kind of

2022
01:21:08,930 --> 01:21:06,840
scared and I was like you know what

2023
01:21:11,810 --> 01:21:08,940
whatever you know I'm gonna say what I

2024
01:21:14,270 --> 01:21:11,820
what I believe is well are you glad you

2025
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:14,280
did yeah definitely yeah where are you

2026
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:15,360
done are you down there is that correct

2027
01:21:19,550 --> 01:21:17,640
yeah that's right yeah he's happy he did

2028
01:21:22,669 --> 01:21:19,560
yeah yeah it's been excellent yeah very

2029
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:22,679
exciting and super interesting yeah yeah

2030
01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:25,020
it's a great topic and Mark uh you have

2031
01:21:29,810 --> 01:21:27,719
sky sky tour and it's a you do things

2032
01:21:31,790 --> 01:21:29,820
Sunday night is mostly or a lot more

2033
01:21:34,490 --> 01:21:31,800
than okay the the radio show is Sunday

2034
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:34,500
night sky to a radio uh and that's six

2035
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:37,920
to eight pm Eastern however uh we also

2036
01:21:43,130 --> 01:21:39,840
have Sky Tour live stream which is our

2037
01:21:44,510 --> 01:21:43,140
Observatory stream uh and we have our

2038
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,520
remote Observatory out in the Arizona

2039
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:46,320
desert which I run from here in

2040
01:21:51,649 --> 01:21:48,900
Connecticut and we show people the night

2041
01:21:53,450 --> 01:21:51,659
sky beautiful things uh we have a

2042
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,460
wonderful patreon crowd we have

2043
01:21:57,709 --> 01:21:55,440
wonderful subscribers of all kinds who

2044
01:21:59,930 --> 01:21:57,719
just come from all over the world uh we

2045
01:22:04,310 --> 01:21:59,940
have people from China Mexico Indonesia

2046
01:22:06,350 --> 01:22:04,320
Japan all over Bulgaria uh and and they

2047
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,360
come in and they spend evenings with us

2048
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:07,679
to actually look at these gorgeous

2049
01:22:12,649 --> 01:22:10,560
objects unfold in seconds because I took

2050
01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:12,659
the time to do this right I think we

2051
01:22:16,490 --> 01:22:14,940
have a telescope that can uh it's

2052
01:22:19,310 --> 01:22:16,500
actually it's only one of its kind on

2053
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:19,320
the planet right now it's a prototype

2054
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:22,800
um and uh it pulls in things and Sky

2055
01:22:26,689 --> 01:22:25,199
objects 25 times faster than a normal

2056
01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:26,699
scope of its kind

2057
01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:28,980
so in seconds we see these beautiful

2058
01:22:34,490 --> 01:22:31,380
stunning objects including tons of

2059
01:22:36,830 --> 01:22:34,500
satellites yeah okay you don't you know

2060
01:22:39,310 --> 01:22:36,840
that's that's Sky Tour live that uh

2061
01:22:41,810 --> 01:22:39,320
skytour live.org

2062
01:22:44,330 --> 01:22:41,820
skytorlive.org I've been called the UFO

2063
01:22:46,729 --> 01:22:44,340
Matchmaker by uh Paul high neck and

2064
01:22:49,490 --> 01:22:46,739
people like that so I'd like to match

2065
01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:49,500
make YouTube guys Chris

2066
01:22:53,390 --> 01:22:51,659
uh please invite mark on your show

2067
01:22:56,030 --> 01:22:53,400
sometime it would be a great show you

2068
01:22:57,649 --> 01:22:56,040
two together yeah definitely please

2069
01:23:00,590 --> 01:22:57,659
enjoy that I'm putting you right on this

2070
01:23:03,530 --> 01:23:00,600
right on the spot so no that's great

2071
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:03,540
anyway no thank you so much and uh Chris

2072
01:23:08,630 --> 01:23:06,719
get some rest and uh thank you so much

2073
01:23:09,729 --> 01:23:08,640
it was a good morning for you now yeah

2074
01:23:13,130 --> 01:23:09,739
yeah

2075
01:23:14,810 --> 01:23:13,140
a lot of fun all right take care nice to

2076
01:23:16,610 --> 01:23:14,820
meet you Chris all right guys see you

2077
01:23:18,770 --> 01:23:16,620
mark

2078
01:23:20,630 --> 01:23:18,780
all right bye Mark you take care okay

2079
01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:20,640
see you later Martin thank you all right

2080
01:23:25,970 --> 01:23:23,100
sure you bet all right everyone so next

2081
01:23:28,610 --> 01:23:25,980
week we have uh Julie Olson about a 1982

2082
01:23:31,250 --> 01:23:28,620
uh UFO encounter and check this out

2083
01:23:32,630 --> 01:23:31,260
remember it worked for me Keep Your Eyes

2084
01:23:39,169 --> 01:23:32,640
to the Sky

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01:23:39,179 --> 01:23:43,900
foreign